Getting Afraid to Even Try - Will moving award from C to F cause too many hassles?
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Getting Afraid to Even Try - Will moving award from C to F cause too many hassles?
Right now my husband and I are booked using UA miles in business class on LH for DFW-FRA-VCE with a stopover and then VCE-MUC-FCO. The return is also business class on LH by way of FCO-FRA-DFW.
I had been planning to change to First class on our flight over (using more miles) when LH releases 1st class seats at 14 days out. I had thought we would enjoy experiencing LH first class as well as the FCT, but frankly reading some of the posted horror stories on totally screwed up itineraries has made me very nervous to change anything.
Am I right to not rock the "plane" or should I go for it but just make sure I see the revised itinerary before letting the agent go? Of course apparently in TPG's case apparently even that wasn't enough to secure his Swiss Air flight.
I had been planning to change to First class on our flight over (using more miles) when LH releases 1st class seats at 14 days out. I had thought we would enjoy experiencing LH first class as well as the FCT, but frankly reading some of the posted horror stories on totally screwed up itineraries has made me very nervous to change anything.
Am I right to not rock the "plane" or should I go for it but just make sure I see the revised itinerary before letting the agent go? Of course apparently in TPG's case apparently even that wasn't enough to secure his Swiss Air flight.
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Absolutely go for it. The issues happen to a tiny handful of people on FT, the epicenter of trouble and failures for airlines. In the real world the failure rate is significantly less.
I wouldn't even give it a second thought.
I wouldn't even give it a second thought.
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Do you have any status so there won't be a redeposit fee? I have done those types of changes with no problem. The trick is to find those LH F seats.
You would not believe how nice the LH FC lounges are. The LH F seats are so much better then their C seats, unless you get the new ones. I like flying on the older 747's so I can get the seat and bed in F Class. Do you or your husband like Johnny Walker Blue Label? That's what served in F class on the plane and in FC lounge.
Depending on which LH FC lounge you use, there are those with private bathrooms with a nice bath tub with even a rubber ducky! The food and drinks are outstanding and if you like apple strudel, the chef makes it for you fresh and hot.
Would I change, in a heart beat! Safe travels.
You would not believe how nice the LH FC lounges are. The LH F seats are so much better then their C seats, unless you get the new ones. I like flying on the older 747's so I can get the seat and bed in F Class. Do you or your husband like Johnny Walker Blue Label? That's what served in F class on the plane and in FC lounge.
Depending on which LH FC lounge you use, there are those with private bathrooms with a nice bath tub with even a rubber ducky! The food and drinks are outstanding and if you like apple strudel, the chef makes it for you fresh and hot.
Would I change, in a heart beat! Safe travels.
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The failure rate is significant enough to notice, but it's still slim.
I think that some people do a large volume of business with UA, so they're prone to experience these sorts of problems because the failure rates are significant enough to be noticed.
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This is a safe move because worst case you will end up on UA J on the long hauls (because UA will have to open up award space to fix its mistake), and unless your LH long hauls have the 747-8, UA J is better anyway.
The FCL, the tarmac drive to the plane, the service on board, cannot beat it.
Try to get longer layovers in Germany so that you maximize the exp.
Enjoy. LH F is why you are member of M+.
The FCL, the tarmac drive to the plane, the service on board, cannot beat it.
Try to get longer layovers in Germany so that you maximize the exp.
Enjoy. LH F is why you are member of M+.
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Right now my husband and I are booked using UA miles in business class on LH for DFW-FRA-VCE with a stopover and then VCE-MUC-FCO. The return is also business class on LH by way of FCO-FRA-DFW.
I had been planning to change to First class on our flight over (using more miles) when LH releases 1st class seats at 14 days out. I had thought we would enjoy experiencing LH first class as well as the FCT, but frankly reading some of the posted horror stories on totally screwed up itineraries has made me very nervous to change anything.
Am I right to not rock the "plane" or should I go for it but just make sure I see the revised itinerary before letting the agent go? Of course apparently in TPG's case apparently even that wasn't enough to secure his Swiss Air flight.
I had been planning to change to First class on our flight over (using more miles) when LH releases 1st class seats at 14 days out. I had thought we would enjoy experiencing LH first class as well as the FCT, but frankly reading some of the posted horror stories on totally screwed up itineraries has made me very nervous to change anything.
Am I right to not rock the "plane" or should I go for it but just make sure I see the revised itinerary before letting the agent go? Of course apparently in TPG's case apparently even that wasn't enough to secure his Swiss Air flight.
This is a safe move because worst case you will end up on UA J on the long hauls (because UA will have to open up award space to fix its mistake), and unless your LH long hauls have the 747-8, UA J is better anyway.
The FCL, the tarmac drive to the plane, the service on board, cannot beat it.
Try to get longer layovers in Germany so that you maximize the exp.
Enjoy. LH F is why you are member of M+.
The FCL, the tarmac drive to the plane, the service on board, cannot beat it.
Try to get longer layovers in Germany so that you maximize the exp.
Enjoy. LH F is why you are member of M+.
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Star_world and Channa are both right: the chances that this will be botched are very slim. The only reason it seems bad is because the chances of a screwed-up itinerary are decidedly less slim than pre-merger. And when something bad like this happens to an FTer, it will probably end up on FT.
Having said that, you should be able to tell immediately if your flight gets messed up after switching simply by looking at your reservation on both UA's and LH's website. Makes sure the same ticket numbers are listed, each itinerary has the same PNR (one for UA and one for LH), all the schedules match. If anything is awry, call back immediately to have it fixed. It may be some hassle, but it won't take 14 days ;-)
Having said that, you should be able to tell immediately if your flight gets messed up after switching simply by looking at your reservation on both UA's and LH's website. Makes sure the same ticket numbers are listed, each itinerary has the same PNR (one for UA and one for LH), all the schedules match. If anything is awry, call back immediately to have it fixed. It may be some hassle, but it won't take 14 days ;-)
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FCT is nice, but overall LH F experience is very overrated, IMHO. My last F was absolutely nothing to write home about, albeit it was old F on A330. The food was a serious downgrade from what I had on the same flight about a year ago and I heard the same from other people. Service was also so-so.
Having said that, if you are currently booked in LH C, by all means change to F if it is available, because LH C is pretty bad.
Having said that, if you are currently booked in LH C, by all means change to F if it is available, because LH C is pretty bad.
#12
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Thanks everyone for the input and the welcome. I don't have status but was going to use my Amex Plat credit for the change fee. And yes, if I can get us into F then I was going to also change to a slightly later flight to VCE so we have a bit of a longer layover instead of the 1 hr 45 min. we have now. You all have bolstered my confidence so am back to counting down the days till F seat release (hopefully).
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FCT is nice, but overall LH F experience is very overrated, IMHO. My last F was absolutely nothing to write home about, albeit it was old F on A330. The food was a serious downgrade from what I had on the same flight about a year ago and I heard the same from other people. Service was also so-so.
Having said that, if you are currently booked in LH C, by all means change to F if it is available, because LH C is pretty bad.
Having said that, if you are currently booked in LH C, by all means change to F if it is available, because LH C is pretty bad.
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FCT is nice, but overall LH F experience is very overrated, IMHO. My last F was absolutely nothing to write home about, albeit it was old F on A330. The food was a serious downgrade from what I had on the same flight about a year ago and I heard the same from other people. Service was also so-so.
Having said that, if you are currently booked in LH C, by all means change to F if it is available, because LH C is pretty bad.
Having said that, if you are currently booked in LH C, by all means change to F if it is available, because LH C is pretty bad.