Will ORD-HNL FINALLY get real C class ?
Feb 18, 2012, 4:19 pm
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Will ORD-HNL FINALLY get real C class ?
With IAH-HNL, IAD-HNL, and EWR-HNL all getting real business class seats, is Chicago still going to stay screwed over with the domestic 777 seats? It is JUST as long a flight as any of the others and from a United hub to a United hub!
Feb 18, 2012, 4:30 pm
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Replacing the high density 777 with the high density 767 would cut nearly 100 seats from the route.
Will 20 1992-era business seats drive enough revenue to replace 36 domestic F seats and 76 Y class seats on both ORD-HNL and HNL-GUM?
Will 20 1992-era business seats drive enough revenue to replace 36 domestic F seats and 76 Y class seats on both ORD-HNL and HNL-GUM?
Feb 18, 2012, 5:09 pm
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To be fair, the OP is probably suggesting more of an international configured aircraft. I think the reality is that the Hawaii market is so price sensitive right now with relatively cheap fares that we won't see a permanent change of aircraft on this route.
Feb 18, 2012, 8:10 pm
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Oh yea, I can totally see them giving up 80 seats and an international route so they can upgrade the equipment for all the low fares to Hawaii.
Feb 18, 2012, 11:38 pm
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Fares to the Islands are up considerably over the past year. Lowest fare our of LAX/SFO has been running north of 11 cents per mile versus 8-9 cents per mile in 2010 and first half of 2011.
Feb 18, 2012, 11:51 pm
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The OP is wondering, if ORD-HNL should get same seats as some other long-haul routes to HI. Are these other routes that different AFA fare level/revenue goes?
Mar 26, 2012, 10:33 pm
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Wich routes to Hawaii have the lie flat seat in them?
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Is it only HNL/EWR that gets theses seats?
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Is it only HNL/EWR that gets theses seats?
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Mar 27, 2012, 10:02 am
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Right now only IAH-HNL is flown with a flatbed aircraft. However that changes next month when the route goes back to the 764. All routes into HNL except NRT-HNL either have domestic F seats or the old BusinessFirst seats, if you get an aircraft mainland-HNL with flatbed seats, then its just pure luck.
Mar 27, 2012, 11:30 am
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Mar 27, 2012, 11:32 am
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Nope...at least not initially. The 76H aircraft has the old BF seats, not flats. There has been much speculation that these will become flat in the near future with the other 764s being updated but the company has not (AFAIK) stated one way or the other on that.
Mar 27, 2012, 11:48 am
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Not regularly scheduled. They have the 76H (767 High Density) scheduled for the IAD-HNL route. Only a schedule change would result in the lie-flat aircraft in the near term. Plus, just a generic look across the next few months and I don't see a very high demand for paid C-class on that route.
