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Originally Posted by LAX
(Post 18051102)
I am confused. I thought airlines can try & see if there are willing pax to voluntarily give up their seats before IDB. If VDB compensation is compelling, I would imagine there will be pax giving up their seats voluntarily. If this is the case, why does it still need to be reported IDB??
LAX The issue is whether or not it's the cusotmer's choice not to fly. A VDB is a volunteer who responds to the airline's solicitation for volunteers. An IDB is someone who is told they're not flying, irrespective of which compensation method they choose. If someone is on a $39 SFO-LAX supersaver, and is told they can get $156 cash or a $400 cert, they may take a $400 cert. They're still an IDB if they want to fly on the original flight but the airline is making them take a later flight due to the oversale. In other words, they're still IDB but waiving their right to cash compensation in exchange for more favorable voucher compensation. |
Originally Posted by hellyea
(Post 18050717)
Agent gave me a choice because the IDB amount was less than VDB. But given that there's a chance I would have lost the difference anyways since VDB residual value = $0. Thats why I for sure took the IDB Check.
If the $250 E-Cert was applied 50/50, I lost out on $500 cash basically. |
Originally Posted by hellyea
(Post 18051136)
I was already IDB'd -- I denied the VDB offer when they announced it because the GA was a moron. She only looked at non stop availability rather than connections, so I refused a 5PM nonstop. I even pulled out the timetable to be like hey check these connections. Supervisor got us on the 951AM through Denver (and she didn't have to open more inventory up for it). So had they offered that connection during the ask for volunteers, I would have probably taken the VDB at that point. Again, agent was not the best trained one.
Ugh...connectors are sometimes easier to accommodate because they don't need to get to ORD or whatever city the flight is going on to. They sometimes have more opportunities. Idiot GA indeed. I had a similar such RCC agent nearly refuse to add me to a VDB list because I had a connection. Fortunately the GA was more with it. The connection didn't phase him one bit -- he found protection through another hub a couple hours later. Those flying the nonstop only would have required an overnight and flight the next day.
Originally Posted by N1120A
(Post 18051232)
That would imply that you will spend less than $400 on United (including PMCO) in the next 12 months. Remember, VDB residual value = $0, but VDB is accepted in the same manner as cash payment. It applies to taxes, fees and anything else that is part of your original purchase price of the ticket.
Remember that there is a cost to using the vouchers -- they're paper, you have to call, hold a ticket, go to the airport (or send them in), they can be lost/stolen, they have to be used on UA/CO, etc. Plus there's no residual, but usable in blocks, so a $350 ticket you'd either lose $50 or pay $50 out of pocket and have another $100 to repeat the process with again. Further, if all or most of your travel is business travel, these won't help unless you really want to offset your business travel. at the rate the OP was given, $360 cash or $400 vouchers, that's only a 10% hit, I think the cash is the clear winner unless you have imminent UA leisure travel you want to book. A different ratio (e.g., $160 cash vs. $400 voucher), it'd be a different story. I think the situation was well played, and the only thing I might have done differently is try to push for an OAL reroute just to drive up the cost of the incident as a punitive measure to UA. But from the sounds of things, stuff was pretty full, so that might not have been an option. |
Originally Posted by channa
(Post 18051276)
I think the situation was well played, and the only thing I might have done differently is try to push for an OAL reroute just to drive up the cost of the incident as a punitive measure to UA. But from the sounds of things, stuff was pretty full, so that might not have been an option.
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