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Originally Posted by kwildnj
(Post 18004966)
Would work in theory, but then consider the following:
Late arriving E+ passenger from connecting flight. Boards nearly as door is going to close. Gate agent tries to get passenger to gate check his legal-sized roll-a-board, but passenger refuses, because policy states he is guaranteed overhead space, and then boards. Flight attendant then locates a E- bag which needs to get "bumped" for the E+ bag. Owner of E- bag refuses to check bag, as it contains valuable camera equipment. Gate agent goes to E- bag #2, which contains passenger's medications. Bag #3, thr passengers travel documents, etc. Flight is now delayed 10 minutes trying to make space for Mr. E+'s bag. Just not going to happen. Especially when not even 1st Class is GUARANTEED any overhead space. |
Originally Posted by LTBoston
(Post 18005912)
I wish the airplane manufacturers could simply find a way to put in two plastic dividers per overhead bin, separating each into three compartments that could hold 1 small rollaboard or personal items of equivalent size, assigned by seat number. Basically, that's "your" guaranteed overhead space and whatever doesn't fit needs to be checked.
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Originally Posted by LTBoston
(Post 18005912)
I wish the airplane manufacturers could simply find a way to put in two plastic dividers per overhead bin, separating each into three compartments that could hold 1 small rollaboard or personal items of equivalent size, assigned by seat number. Basically, that's "your" guaranteed overhead space and whatever doesn't fit needs to be checked.
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Originally Posted by TomA
(Post 18006276)
On most planes there is not space for one full sized carry on per passenger. If dividers were added, they would not be large enough for ANY rollerboards.
Smaller planes with shallower overhead bins, yeah, you're right. |
Originally Posted by TomA
(Post 18005648)
I always put my laptop bag in the overhead and consider that to be a benefit of early boarding. I've not seen any rule that disallows this, so I'm not sure why FAs would "crack down" on a non-rule. As far as I can tell, overhead space is first come, first served.
My personal policy is that if I am carrying two bags, one bag goes up, and the other bag stays with me. If I am only carrying one bag (even a small laptop bag), it goes up. |
Originally Posted by TomA
(Post 18005648)
I always put my laptop bag in the overhead and consider that to be a benefit of early boarding. I've not seen any rule that disallows this, so I'm not sure why FAs would "crack down" on a non-rule. As far as I can tell, overhead space is first come, first served.
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Originally Posted by dgdevil
(Post 18006744)
I didn't know United offered an extra class of service, the Entitled Class.
Originally Posted by vortix
(Post 18006327)
I would add that it is courtesy to place your laptop bag under the seat in front of you (if you already placed another carryon bag up above).
Regardless, I still believe that the airlines consider overhead space to be a first come first served benefit of early boarding. Some airlines even advertise it as such: http://www.jetblue.com/flying-on-jetblue/even-more/ It would be also be a courtesy to give up your seat to someone with a less desirable seat, too--perhaps an 80 year old lady in the back; any takers? Assuming you got the seat via your status (rather than buying it), the bin issue is just a less obvious example of the same thing. |
Originally Posted by TomA
(Post 18006892)
I still believe that the airlines consider overhead space to be a first come first served benefit of early boarding. Some airlines even advertise it as such:
http://www.jetblue.com/flying-on-jetblue/even-more/ |
Originally Posted by LTBoston
(Post 18006934)
It promises "early access" to the bins. It doesn't guarantee that an FA isn't going to come along and ask you to move your laptop case under the seat in front of you to accommodate larger bags up top - which happens on pretty much every crowded flight I've ever been on.
I've only seen general PA announcements like, "If your carryon will fit under the seat, we would appreciate it if you moved it." I have not seen them force anyone to comply. I'm not saying that it hasn't happened--I'm sure it has--just that I have not seen it. That said, I've seen even more cases in which the FA doesn't make any announcement at all and just says, "If you can't find a space, we are going to check it." |
Originally Posted by TomA
(Post 18006892)
For the last few years since CO started reserving them for 1P+ I have--100% of the time--been seated in an exit row or bulkhead seat, (assuming I wasn't in F) so this is not possible.
My point is FAs will often ask passengers to be considerate of others when placing their bags in the bin. I don't care if there is no rule carved in stone. We're trying to have a society here -- and to leave on time rather than wait around while the bags of tight connectors (maybe you one day) and a dozen passengers in seating area 4 are tagged at the door. |
No need?
Originally Posted by walkerci
(Post 18005869)
There is a far simpler approach.
If an aircraft has more than 90% of the seats sold, then passengers without *A elite status should be restricted to 1 carry on item. Obviously, this wouldn't be needed for the 764, 762, or 777. Not sure about the UA 763 or 747 as I haven't flown on them yet. You obviously haven't flown a full EWR->BOM flight before!!! :p |
Originally Posted by dgdevil
(Post 18006992)
We're trying to have a society here -- and to leave on time rather than wait around while the bags of tight connectors (maybe you one day) and a dozen passengers in seating area 4 are tagged at the door.
Airlines are an EXTREMELY hierarchical society, and I don't see many people here arguing to change that with regard to the other benefits. This one issue seems to be an exception. (Why not just rotate the E+ seating, after all?) |
A bit of noblesse oblige will make you feel good. No one's asking you to share some scraps from your hot meal with the working classes.
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Originally Posted by dgdevil
(Post 18007159)
A bit of noblesse oblige will make you feel good. No one's asking you to share some scraps from your hot meal with the working classes.
Hahaha... OK. I'm just not for forcing the issue down anyone's throat. If I have a seat in front, and the item fits, fine. But in many cases, one or both of those are not true. |
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