When Did CO Start Operating UA's IAD-AMS Flight?

Old Oct 24, 11, 4:24 pm
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When Did CO Start Operating UA's IAD-AMS Flight?

Just started looking at flights for a New Years Eve vacation and found according to the .bomb the daily flight from IAD to AMS was on a 757-200-when did that change occur? A year ago it was a 777. Not so excited about using SWU to upgrade to first on a 757.

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It appears it started in September.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ne-2011-a.html
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Old Oct 24, 11, 4:28 pm
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Service change started in September

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ne-2011-a.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...w-service.html
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Old Oct 24, 11, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by sailmd View Post
Not so excited about using SWU to upgrade to first on a 757.
FWIW, I rather like the lie-flat seats on a 752. It's much like the upstairs n a 747.
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Old Oct 24, 11, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy View Post
Originally Posted by sailmd View Post
Not so excited about using SWU to upgrade to first on a 757.
FWIW, I rather like the lie-flat seats on a 752. It's much like the upstairs n a 747.
Except that it's downstairs on a 757.
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Old Oct 24, 11, 4:56 pm
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Except that it's downstairs on a 757.
Better that than an old config 777
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Old Oct 24, 11, 5:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy View Post
FWIW, I rather like the lie-flat seats on a 752. It's much like the upstairs n a 747.
Without the window storage.
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy View Post
FWIW, I rather like the lie-flat seats on a 752. It's much like the upstairs n a 747.
The problem is that there's no downstairs worth of C inventory on a 752 to complement the "upper deck"
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Except that it's downstairs on a 757.
Better that than an old config 777
Not in the case of the OP.
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Originally Posted by SFOtoORD View Post
Better that than an old config 777
Great another favorite Europe destination I will need to find alternate routing... bleh
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Old Oct 24, 11, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by UA-NYC View Post
The problem is that there's no downstairs worth of C inventory on a 752 to complement the "upper deck"
The real problem is that there's not a 777-loads worth of premium passengers each day in the IAD-AMS market. If you want widebody service, get enough people to buy a widebody's worth of tickets...
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Old Oct 24, 11, 7:34 pm
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The real problem is that there's not a 777-loads worth of premium passengers each day in the IAD-AMS market. If you want widebody service, get enough people to buy a widebody's worth of tickets...
Tough to conclusively make that statement. Do we really know what paid C/F loads are like on that route?

What we do know is that EWR is slot constrained, IAD isn't, and that CO has a defecit of widebodies. So it makes sense to send widebodies to EWR in order to maximize premium cabin availability to Europe.

More a reflection on EWR and a/c availability than IAD and the 777.

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Old Oct 24, 11, 7:37 pm
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Indeed. If more people are willing to pay more money to fly out of EWR than IAD then it makes sense for the company to make that possible. Putting the right plane on each route to maximize profit is what they're paid to do, not putting the best plane on each route for upgrades.

Still, the point remains that if the flights ex-IAD were sufficiently profitable they'd likely still be operating with those aircraft rather than having the swaps made.
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Old Oct 24, 11, 7:55 pm
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Indeed. If more people are willing to pay more money to fly out of EWR than IAD then it makes sense for the company to make that possible. Putting the right plane on each route to maximize profit is what they're paid to do, not putting the best plane on each route for upgrades.

Still, the point remains that if the flights ex-IAD were sufficiently profitable they'd likely still be operating with those aircraft rather than having the swaps made.
I agree 100%.
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Old Oct 24, 11, 8:35 pm
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the dreadful equipment downgrade and transfer of the route to continental mainline on the 757 occured in the end of august beginning of sep.


and i do believe with the end of the route by "United" flight number 946 was retired.

I had horrible rumors about the 757 flights from IAD to Europe
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