Certain Lufthansa Fares (LH) earning only 50% or no EQM/RDM?
#151
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NCL
Programs: UA 1MM/*G. DL Gold for one more year.
Posts: 5,305
I travelled with LH FRA-LGW in L class on April 22, connecting from Japan. According to the mileage earning tables at the time, this flight was eligible for credit, and I have a printout of the earning table from April 4 to show this. Whilst my first retrocredit request was ignored, my second one says that the flight is not eligible, and indeed it isn't according to the current earnings tables. Based on previous experience, I usually save pdf versions of the earnings tables both before and after travel, but I forgot on this occasion. Has anybody else got the evidence I need and is happy to share? Or did the change actually happen between April 4 and April 22?
#152
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: LAX
Programs: UA 1P 1MM
Posts: 718
P fare TATL
Does anyone have evidence showing that LH P fare does indeed earn PQM? According to this link, it is considered as full fare economy class fare and earn 150% PQM. But, it has been a month already and none of my miles has posted. I know that my MP number was entered when I made the reservation and I have since then filed a claim with MP already.
https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/mar...spx?ItemId=298
https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/mar...spx?ItemId=298
#153
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: YUL
Programs: UA 1K, MR Bonvoy Bonzaiiiii, National EE
Posts: 622
Does anyone have evidence showing that LH P fare does indeed earn PQM? According to this link, it is considered as full fare economy class fare and earn 150% PQM. But, it has been a month already and none of my miles has posted. I know that my MP number was entered when I made the reservation and I have since then filed a claim with MP already.
https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/mar...spx?ItemId=298
https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/mar...spx?ItemId=298
#154
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: MCO, DCA, IAD
Programs: UA GS 1MM, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,134
Upcoming trip with UA with a connection on LH via FRA. First LH leg shows 1766 PQM on an H fare, second LH leg (return flight), shows 0 PQM on an H fare (same destinations). Is this a technical glitch or something else?
#155
Join Date: Apr 2012
Programs: United 1K 1MM, Marriott LTT
Posts: 20
It seems like they should either get on board with them or get out of bed, not halfway.
I really did stop flying them over this as I said I would, save for reservations I already had. All my flights were late on both reservations, too. I did get to push the button to call the train at ATL, that was fun. And very late.
As I posted before, I do customer service and I do it well, they don't.
I really did stop flying them over this as I said I would, save for reservations I already had. All my flights were late on both reservations, too. I did get to push the button to call the train at ATL, that was fun. And very late.
As I posted before, I do customer service and I do it well, they don't.
#156
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: msp
Programs: AA PLT 3MM, DL PM 2MM
Posts: 1,142
No credit to Milage Plus from LH "P" fare
To my surprise, ignorance and outrage, took RT from JFK to FRA on LH in business with a "P" fare. Cost $2850. UA says now that LH gives no mileage plus credit on that discounted fare. WOW. Pissed. Rules are too complicated. But no miles for a 2800 dollar ticket. Give me a break. I've just got to keep my eyes on these rules.
#157
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: HPN
Programs: not anymore! I'm FREE!
Posts: 3,459
The mileage earning chart lists P fares as economy class, earning 125% of base miles (and 150% of PQMs).
If a UA agent told you that the fare earns no miles, try calling again.
If a UA agent told you that the fare earns no miles, try calling again.
#158
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Montréal
Programs: Air Canada, Hyatt
Posts: 1,376
To my surprise, ignorance and outrage, took RT from JFK to FRA on LH in business with a "P" fare. Cost $2850. UA says now that LH gives no mileage plus credit on that discounted fare. WOW. Pissed. Rules are too complicated. But no miles for a 2800 dollar ticket. Give me a break. I've just got to keep my eyes on these rules.
#159
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: LAX
Programs: UA 1P 1MM
Posts: 718
To my surprise, ignorance and outrage, took RT from JFK to FRA on LH in business with a "P" fare. Cost $2850. UA says now that LH gives no mileage plus credit on that discounted fare. WOW. Pissed. Rules are too complicated. But no miles for a 2800 dollar ticket. Give me a break. I've just got to keep my eyes on these rules.
I have just emailed MP today to see whether they would help me, although I am not really having high hopes about this.
#160
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Posts: 215
OK..I am confused (shocker when dealing with United nowadays). Do you get PQMs when flying LH across the pond on a T or L fare? The earning mileage chart for LH flights says 100% both RDM & PQM for Discount Economy T, L fares (not the within Europe only). However, when I do a search for flights, any LH flight says 0% PQM. Which is it???
#161
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: AMS
Posts: 899
OK..I am confused (shocker when dealing with United nowadays). Do you get PQMs when flying LH across the pond on a T or L fare? The earning mileage chart for LH flights says 100% both RDM & PQM for Discount Economy T, L fares (not the within Europe only). However, when I do a search for flights, any LH flight says 0% PQM. Which is it???
#163
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: HPN
Programs: not anymore! I'm FREE!
Posts: 3,459
In airlinemileswhore's case it doesn't really matter because all TATL fares on LH earn UA miles (except of course for award tickets). However, it's something to keep in mind in cases where the operating carrier has some fare classes that don't earn miles, or earn fewer miles than the same fare class on the booking carrier. For instance, it's conceivable that you could book an S fare on UA that includes an intra-europe segment on LH - but that the LH booking code will be T, and therefore you don't get miles for that segment.
The irritiating thing is that there is absolutely no way to know this before booking - but you can find out by calling the operating carrier just after you buy the ticket (or look at the online reservation on the operating carrier's website; sometimes it will show the booking code).
#164
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 17
Business class on Lufthansa = get double miles on United?
Hi, a loyal MP member here.
Just booked a business trip on Business Class (discounted; fare class Z) from Lufthansa. When booking, Lufthansa promises 200% mileage since it's booked business class.
Since I'll be earning in Mileage Plus, and not MilesAndMore, will I still get 2x as many miles?
Just booked a business trip on Business Class (discounted; fare class Z) from Lufthansa. When booking, Lufthansa promises 200% mileage since it's booked business class.
Since I'll be earning in Mileage Plus, and not MilesAndMore, will I still get 2x as many miles?
#165
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Hi, a loyal MP member here.
Just booked a business trip on Business Class (discounted; fare class Z) from Lufthansa. When booking, Lufthansa promises 200% mileage since it's booked business class.
Since I'll be earning in Mileage Plus, and not MilesAndMore, will I still get 2x as many miles?
Just booked a business trip on Business Class (discounted; fare class Z) from Lufthansa. When booking, Lufthansa promises 200% mileage since it's booked business class.
Since I'll be earning in Mileage Plus, and not MilesAndMore, will I still get 2x as many miles?
Last edited by UAPremExecflyer; Sep 21, 2012 at 8:02 pm Reason: corrected to 150% PQM from 1.5