jx99

If I get the Chase Sapphire Preferred and get 50k bonus points and transferred them into my United account before the end of the year rebalancing, would that could towards the MM?

Baze

Nope. Only EQM's will count. Don't think those are EQM's

SADDE6

With over 1,100 posts on the new UA MM program, it seems that the varied opinions expressed on this topic roughly correspond to a handful of categories based on how many lifetime miles the individual has in the program.

For the ex-Continental flyers:

• CO with 2M+ miles = Jumping for joy: mileage bonus goes from 50% to 75% plus many more benefits
• CO with 1M miles = Ecstatic: mileage bonus goes from 25% to 50%, plus *G
• CO with 750-999K miles = Happy: MM status is looking a lot better
• CO with 250-750K miles = Indifferent: status quo
• CO with 250K miles (Infinite Elite) = Thrilled: grandfathered 1K status for life

And for the ex-United flyers:

• UA with 2M+ miles = Indifferent: mileage bonus cut but Red Carpet Club for life grandfathered
• UA with 1M miles = Livid: mileage bonus cut from 100% to 50%, no more annual regional upgrades
• UA with 750-999K miles = Hopeful: recalulation could mean 1MM status without having to fly another mile on UA
• UA with 250-750K miles = Indifferent: status quo
• UA with 250K miles = Regretful: wishing they had flown CO instead of UA in the late 80s

Looking at it this way it becomes even more strange. Why would UA design a MM program that improves or grandfathers benefits for everyone except their ex-UA 1MM flyers?

kb1992

It is not strange. CO people have taken over.

This merger benefits CO flyers much more than UA flyers.

Good analysis, though.

IainC

Yep, good analysis but you nailed it too in one sentence. CO indeed have taken over.

xFF

Your analysis was evidently so good that all attention was focused on it, and no one noticed that you have at least 1,099 posts less than that number, what with that having been your first.

So, Welcome to FlyerTalk!

Fredd

Yes indeed! ^

UA-NYC

Not just MMs - but for any status level, the average CO flyer has either (worst case) remained on par, or gained much more than the average UA flyer in the merger.

bmvaughn

They had a longer way to go to get to our level. CO elite was not as valuable as UA elite pre-merger.

UA-NYC

That's my point They've done quite well for themselves. UA elites, not so much.

Eastbay1K

We clearly are not valuable. I buy approximately 3 annual RTs in int'l business on another carrier and deposit those miles in another program (where I receive 2x miles), and am better off not being now 4th in the upgrade/status/service pecking order. My RDM earnings are dumping by 50%. I'll rarely if ever get another domestic UG out of SFO. I haven't flown CO since 1985, so I am not worthy of this new regime, despite the 8 or so years in a row that I was a 1K. (Now happily a 1P MM who fortunately doesn't need to fly this airline very often anymore.)

bmvaughn

And my point is that all of us have to be equal after the change, so it shouldn't surprise or anger.

SADDE6

I appreciate this and the other posts welcoming me to FT! I've enjoyed reading many of the posts by long-time FT'ers such as yourselves over the years but never got around to joining the conversation until now.

I agree it's clear that the ex-CO flyers are far better off than ex-UA flyers, but the point I found striking was how United has spared the ex-UA 3MM/4MM flyers and accommodated the ex-UA 2MM flyers (by grandfathering lifetime RCC), but has targeted the ex-UA 1MM flyers for the worst of their draconian cuts.

That's the part I thought was strange: why UA would seek to accommodate all the other groups of MM flyers except for the ex-UA 1MM flyers?

elitefreak

I'm jealous. Only your second post and you're mult-quoting. I STILL don't know how to do that . . .

dgcpaphd

There are two critical elements that the management of a reputable company must have - integrity and credibility.

On United's official website, it was announced that after the two programs merge, the million-milers would receive benefits as they always have and another announcement said (and still says) that million milers will receive two regional upgrades at the end of every year.

Despite the above announcements that are in writing on United's official web site, United's new management, with discrimination, ignored the above language and demoted million milers.

The only way for United's new management to demonstrate integrity and credibility would be to grandfather the million milers in accordance with what United promised in writing.

United is selectively grandfathering other elements of the combined program. Why not grandfather the million-milers? It is only fair considering that the promise is in writing from United.

No, for the above addressed reasons, I disagree when you write "all of us have to be equal after the change, so it shouldn't surprise or anger."
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