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CO/UA Million Mile (and Beyond) Flyer Benefits, Effective Spring 2012
Sep 26, 2011, 12:59 pm
#406
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Phoenix
Programs: UA1k;HH Gold;MR Gold
Posts: 6,112
Do miles transferred from AMEX MR to CO count towards MM qualification
I have read and searched all the threads and cannot figure out
If I transfer miles from American Express ( before 9/30) - do they count towards the "new" MM qualification
Thanks
If I transfer miles from American Express ( before 9/30) - do they count towards the "new" MM qualification
Thanks
Sep 26, 2011, 1:03 pm
#407
Join Date: May 2006
Location: BOS and ...
Programs: UA 2MM, AA 600k, DL 500k, Hyatt GP 1M, HH Gold, Rad. Gold, CP Gold, Miracle Fruit-su Club
Posts: 9,950
DL is still holding the line on the original MM program
in the dark days, a lot of employees lost their pensions in numerous companies, and the dark days are here again...beggars can't be choosers, despite what some european citizens hope for... dead lucky the whole thing hasnt gone down the plughole of life.
personally i think they've done extremely well to sort it out...now we just have to hope the whole thing wasnt a pipe dream, like the welfare state, or universal health care
personally i think they've done extremely well to sort it out...now we just have to hope the whole thing wasnt a pipe dream, like the welfare state, or universal health care
2) The irony of the quoted comment is palpable. Even as the employees were lured into the "EPO" in lieu of pension (an early model for an all-401K "pension" all in the same company's stock) and some wages and in return for give-backs, the stock value was then drained (good thing they didn't rob it) by Mr. Tilton and his team -- who then received grand golden parachutes by a board of other CEOs similarly situated (good thing it wasn't a union or some other united - small "u" - group such as customers). All of this sanctioned by capitalism, albeit some of its lesser aspects.
3) Rants aside, they have done a pretty good job with "sorting it out" (a broad, comfortable characterization of their gambit). But there are some hairier aspects, which are never more sorted out than by informed FlyerTalkers who are on this side of the counter.
DL held the line on its MM status program through its acquisition of NW, and is still holding. Many pressed the similar point during the 500-mile push-back.
Back to regularly scheduled programming...
[Another NB: Cards on the table, I like some Europeans. As Mark Twain said...]
Sep 26, 2011, 1:05 pm
#408
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,731
Miles transfer will only increase your redeemable miles balance. It will not increment your elite qualifying miles, so it will not count for the transition to the new MM qualification.
Sep 26, 2011, 1:07 pm
#409
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SJC, SFO, YYC
Programs: AA-EXP, AA-0.41MM, UA-Gold, Ex UA-1K (2006 thru 2015), PMUA-0.95MM, COUA-1.5MM-lite, AF-Silver
Posts: 13,437
- Current CO lifetime miles: 50,000
- Current UA lifetime BIS: 1,250,000
- Current UA total reward miles earned from beginning of MP: ESTIMATED to be 2,200,000
- Total miles earned from hotels, rental cars, and credit cards: ESTIMATED 100,000
In the above case study, will UA's math be: 2,200,000 + 50,000 = 2,250,000 miles and award lifetime Platinum ststus?
If the 2,200,000 miles are EQMs, then that will be UA's math.
Sep 26, 2011, 1:07 pm
#410
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Phoenix
Programs: UA1k;HH Gold;MR Gold
Posts: 6,112
Thanks
Sep 26, 2011, 1:25 pm
#411
Join Date: May 2006
Location: BOS and ...
Programs: UA 2MM, AA 600k, DL 500k, Hyatt GP 1M, HH Gold, Rad. Gold, CP Gold, Miracle Fruit-su Club
Posts: 9,950
I've pressed this point on both of these threads -- a win-win. And no more promos needed through the end of 2011, if they press the point. Your comment prompts this additional thought: If UACO doesn't get to this soon, it will need an even larger cleanup team going forward, when many, many MP members contest their totals. (Though it was reported above that requests for MP data purges now are being honored only going back to 2009 without a court order. Though it hasn't been reported if the FT "rinse, repeat" maxim re calling was followed to improved effect.)
Sep 26, 2011, 2:21 pm
#412
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,168
NOT counting D/TEQM then would not quite equalize the programs. That's what's most important.
Sep 26, 2011, 2:27 pm
#413
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: IAH
Programs: UA Premier 1K, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Gold
Posts: 158
While I understand the switch to BIS (although a lot of my lifetime EQM is from Skyteam partners from flying to BOM), I am disappointed that the TATL JV flights on LH and AC are not being counted as well. These are supposed to be metal neutral flights and United will be getting an equal share of revenue and costs from them...there's no reason they can't be counted.
Sep 26, 2011, 2:29 pm
#414
Join Date: May 2004
Programs: UA2mm,HGPdiamond, AAExPlat, MarriottGold
Posts: 335
[QUOTE=LAXOGG;17175915]My MP History Dump shows a 50% Fare class bonus for a FC trip that I took in 1986 on AF.
Sorry for my ignorance, but is it possible to do a mileage 'history dump' via the UA Mileage Plus website? Trying to see were I might land by combining my current 1.7M on UA with the other airline miles and miles that didn't count originally. Thanks
Sorry for my ignorance, but is it possible to do a mileage 'history dump' via the UA Mileage Plus website? Trying to see were I might land by combining my current 1.7M on UA with the other airline miles and miles that didn't count originally. Thanks
Sep 26, 2011, 2:33 pm
#415
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,850
You can get 2010 and 2011 data on line but not 2009 or earlier.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...hould-get.html
It would be in UA best interest to post the adjusted Lifetime number soon or there will be a deluge of request for data.
Sep 26, 2011, 2:34 pm
#416
Join Date: Sep 2009
Programs: UA GS>1K>Nothing; DL DM 2MM; AS 75K>Nothing>MVP
Posts: 9,341
And I conclude slightly differently.
The reason: if you look at the "upgrade benefits" chart on united.com, it states that PPs get RPUs/CR1 and 1Ks get GPUs/SWU as a benefit. Full stop.
Now, we all know that PPs get them because of flying 75K in a year, and 1k's get them because of flying 100k in a year, as that's when they are now deposited.
HOWEVER, taken literally at face value, it is not an unreasonable conclusion that lifetime PPs/1Ks get their RPUs/GPUs as per their minimum status level, especially when you include Scott's cryptic "partner" benefit list.
At the very least, we need to hear straight from MP to be sure.
The reason: if you look at the "upgrade benefits" chart on united.com, it states that PPs get RPUs/CR1 and 1Ks get GPUs/SWU as a benefit. Full stop.
Now, we all know that PPs get them because of flying 75K in a year, and 1k's get them because of flying 100k in a year, as that's when they are now deposited.
HOWEVER, taken literally at face value, it is not an unreasonable conclusion that lifetime PPs/1Ks get their RPUs/GPUs as per their minimum status level, especially when you include Scott's cryptic "partner" benefit list.
At the very least, we need to hear straight from MP to be sure.
If you don't get the UG instruments, there is very little value in going from 2MM PP to 3MM P1K.
And since the number of 3MM flyers is miniscule, UA would get a PR benefit at very little cost by giving GPUs to 3MM 1K customers.
Does anyone disagree that you should get MM credit for award tickets on UA metal?
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Sep 26, 2011, 2:44 pm
#417
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Sep 26, 2011, 2:57 pm
#418
Join Date: May 2006
Location: BOS and ...
Programs: UA 2MM, AA 600k, DL 500k, Hyatt GP 1M, HH Gold, Rad. Gold, CP Gold, Miracle Fruit-su Club
Posts: 9,950
Ohhh, that would be sweet, but I've only gotten credit for those rarely and a long time ago, when an agent either goofed, or "goofed", and when computers were primitive by today's standards. Even back before they broke out EQMs and RDMs.
Sep 26, 2011, 3:01 pm
#419
Join Date: Sep 2009
Programs: UA GS>1K>Nothing; DL DM 2MM; AS 75K>Nothing>MVP
Posts: 9,341
Because it is often better for UA from a revenue point of view.
E.g - If I UG a $1600 W fare instead of buying a $6000 C fare, the revenue hit to UA is $4400. If I get an economy award ticket for the same miles instead of buying a a cheap economy fare, the revenue hit to UA is maybe a $1000. If I was UA I would try to have a policy which incentivizes my customers to do what is best for my revenue/income.
E.g - If I UG a $1600 W fare instead of buying a $6000 C fare, the revenue hit to UA is $4400. If I get an economy award ticket for the same miles instead of buying a a cheap economy fare, the revenue hit to UA is maybe a $1000. If I was UA I would try to have a policy which incentivizes my customers to do what is best for my revenue/income.
Sep 26, 2011, 3:39 pm
#420
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near SEA
Programs: UA MM, AS MVPG75K, Marriott Lifetime Gold
Posts: 7,969
I was wrong when I said "read this thread" since it was in the larger thread, but you get the point I hope.