Jan 1, 18, 9:44 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Benefits unique to the Chase MP Presidential Plus card (closed and not available for new cardholders)
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- FPQMs can only be used to increase PQMs to a max of 75,000. They are not counted once 75K is reached. (example 80K PQMs +10 FPQMs is still 80K total)
- FPQMs cannot be used to earn GPUs or RPUs past 75K PQMs
- FPQMs are held separately and are only used when the owner requests them to be applied to their MP accountFPQMs can be applied for a given year as late as March 31 of the next year
General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQP ( was Flex PQM)
Jul 30, 12, 1:18 pm
#77
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missing nothing -- they have zero worth (this year). Long discussion on this in the referenced thread but some protection for future years -- but limited due to the expiration. Note unless you were an existing PresPlus customer, no new customers can get a card with FEQMs. It is a dying benefit.
Jul 30, 12, 1:19 pm
#78
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I'm going to offer a different take from the previous posters.
The official answer from United has always been that no flex EQMs can count towards 1K, period. In fact, the web interface will not let you transfer any flex EQMs past 75K (this has been true since at least last year).
However, the question remains: are there are any IT barriers set up against transferring flex EQMs *before* you hit 75K, and then flying another 25K in "real" EQMs later? Color me skeptical that anyone at UA has written any code to prevent this. I can see all sorts of practical problems with retroactively discounting those miles. I'd bet that UA has only put up the simplest barrier (no transfers past 75K) and is just gonna sunset the whole flex EQM thing.
What we really need is someone who has experience trying this to chime in and let everyone know definitively what happened. This question comes up periodically, and as far as I've seen, no one ever has answered with their own personal experience (though it's quite possible I missed that particular post if it exists). Until we get someone with firsthand experience, all of the answers to this question are speculative.
The official answer from United has always been that no flex EQMs can count towards 1K, period. In fact, the web interface will not let you transfer any flex EQMs past 75K (this has been true since at least last year).
However, the question remains: are there are any IT barriers set up against transferring flex EQMs *before* you hit 75K, and then flying another 25K in "real" EQMs later? Color me skeptical that anyone at UA has written any code to prevent this. I can see all sorts of practical problems with retroactively discounting those miles. I'd bet that UA has only put up the simplest barrier (no transfers past 75K) and is just gonna sunset the whole flex EQM thing.
What we really need is someone who has experience trying this to chime in and let everyone know definitively what happened. This question comes up periodically, and as far as I've seen, no one ever has answered with their own personal experience (though it's quite possible I missed that particular post if it exists). Until we get someone with firsthand experience, all of the answers to this question are speculative.
Jul 30, 12, 1:24 pm
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Although UA has shown no hesitation in "fixing" a certain class IT issues (those in the customer's advantage) after the fact. So even if someone thought this worked, it could be "fixed." (and done too late to earn the loss status)
Jul 30, 12, 1:37 pm
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Sep 5, 12, 12:51 pm
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I currently have three different United cards. I didn't have to do anything special to get them.
Sep 5, 12, 12:58 pm
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Sep 10, 12, 11:40 am
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Using FPM to get *close* to 100k?
I currently have 75,000 YTD Premier Miles, making me Premier Platinum. I've read that Flexible Premier Miles cannot be used to obtain Premier 1K status.
However, I have several more flights scheduled in 2012 that will get me close (but not quite) to 100,000.
I was wondering if I can use apply my FPM miles to my Premier Miles account now (bumping the balance up to something like 85,000 miles), and then have the actual flown miles be the event that puts me over 100,000 total miles?
However, I have several more flights scheduled in 2012 that will get me close (but not quite) to 100,000.
I was wondering if I can use apply my FPM miles to my Premier Miles account now (bumping the balance up to something like 85,000 miles), and then have the actual flown miles be the event that puts me over 100,000 total miles?
Sep 10, 12, 12:37 pm
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I currently have 75,000 YTD Premier Miles, making me Premier Platinum. I've read that Flexible Premier Miles cannot be used to obtain Premier 1K status.
However, I have several more flights scheduled in 2012 that will get me close (but not quite) to 100,000.
I was wondering if I can use apply my FPM miles to my Premier Miles account now (bumping the balance up to something like 85,000 miles), and then have the actual flown miles be the event that puts me over 100,000 total miles?
However, I have several more flights scheduled in 2012 that will get me close (but not quite) to 100,000.
I was wondering if I can use apply my FPM miles to my Premier Miles account now (bumping the balance up to something like 85,000 miles), and then have the actual flown miles be the event that puts me over 100,000 total miles?
Sep 10, 12, 1:40 pm
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None of the 100,000 miles used to make 1K can come from FEQM/FPQMs. BIS miles only (including 500-mile minimum credit). It doesn't matter if the event that puts you over 100,000 is a flight--if any of the 100,000 miles are Flex ones, you won't be 1K until you have 100,000 non-Flex qualifying miles. (Elite Maximizer/Premier Accelerator is different--they will happily charge you for them and let you count them toward 1K).
https://secure.unitedmileageplus.com...oicesTerms.jsp
Sep 11, 12, 11:00 am
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None of the 100,000 miles used to make 1K can come from FEQM/FPQMs. BIS miles only (including 500-mile minimum credit). It doesn't matter if the event that puts you over 100,000 is a flight--if any of the 100,000 miles are Flex ones, you won't be 1K until you have 100,000 non-Flex qualifying miles. (Elite Maximizer/Premier Accelerator is different--they will happily charge you for them and let you count them toward 1K).
Sep 27, 12, 12:53 pm
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Transferring Flexible Premier Miles
As is normal, I called customer service a couple of times and got totally opposite answers so I thought I would try here.
When I log on to My Account there is an option to "Transfer Flexible Premier Miles". The first question is, what is the deadline to transfer flexible premier miles into my account balance to be mixed with my earned miles for the 2012 calendar year in order to obtain gold status for 2012? Is it 12/31/2012 or is it 3/31/2013? Or some other date?
If the answer is 12/31/2012 then I have a second question. The literature for the Presidential Plus card says your miles can be used for the year they are earned plus 3 additional years. It also says they will expire 39 months after the end of the year they are earned. Why 39 months? I'm assuming it is 39 months since you are given a 3 month grace period after Jan. 1 to transfer your miles into your account for the previous year. There would be no reason to say "39 months" rather than "36 months" if the deadline for transferring miles is Dec. 31.
When I log on to My Account there is an option to "Transfer Flexible Premier Miles". The first question is, what is the deadline to transfer flexible premier miles into my account balance to be mixed with my earned miles for the 2012 calendar year in order to obtain gold status for 2012? Is it 12/31/2012 or is it 3/31/2013? Or some other date?
If the answer is 12/31/2012 then I have a second question. The literature for the Presidential Plus card says your miles can be used for the year they are earned plus 3 additional years. It also says they will expire 39 months after the end of the year they are earned. Why 39 months? I'm assuming it is 39 months since you are given a 3 month grace period after Jan. 1 to transfer your miles into your account for the previous year. There would be no reason to say "39 months" rather than "36 months" if the deadline for transferring miles is Dec. 31.
