1kwannabe

Well, I have to say I read something in this UAinsider note that I like. I like all the changes for the most part.

But...
AA may still have a swelling rank(myself included) if UACO does what is rumored to the Milage Plus program.
One can hope that the MP rumored changes are just that, rumored/
If it is with very little to none changes in MP combined with these up enhancements, then yes, Changes we all like.

True to a point,
Until the new MP plan is rolled out. Ma and Pa kettle, kayakers and others whom fly once/twice a year trump us road warriors for upgrades via Miles+copay/ and YB MH W fares...


Maybe it's because I'm such a suspicious cynic at heart, but I wonder if the timing of this announcement has anything to do with the beating UA is taking over the rumored downgrade of the MP program. [/

Spot on halls120, my thoughts exactly...

bmvaughn

No reason to wait for the SOC.

I'd expect the JFK IFL to close.

Xyzzy

I'd imagine that channel 9 will cme along with this as well.

Whether CR-1/UDU can be used to upgrade depends on whether the flight is marketed as BF and has BF service. If it isn't marketed that way then those upgrade instruments/methods can be used regardless f what the equipment is.

I'd expect the UA version fr the 777 aircraft and the CO version for the P.S. and 763/764 aircraft.

SFOTurtle

So, does that mean that any domestic flight operated by 777s, 764s and UA domestic 763s reconverted with the new lie-flat C seats will no longer be upgradeable using UDUs? I guess that basically leaves 737s, A320s, A319s, and non-PS 757s (and UX) as flights where UDU would apply.

dinoscool3

No, they will, it depends on the route, not the aircraft.

mp2

Can't wait for E+ seats to be made available on the 777-200LRs that fly to India

Jorgen

Well I'm disappointed, because I guess this means that we're never going to get AVOD on the 747s.

Instead, some kind of wireless streaming to your BYO video device. But it doesn't say anything about installing power, and my laptop battery will probably last... ooh, about one sixth of the way from SFO to SYD, so... generally, it doesn't seem like a good move.

And apart from the disappointing lack of AVOD on the 747s, the other things don't make much difference for me. I suppose having E+ on a Q400 will be nice if I ever wind up flying on one. The gradual addition of E+ to Continental planes just means that starting next year I'll be able to get onto a United flight which *doesn't* have E+. I suppose larger overhead bins on the A320s are a bit of an improvement (though my carryon is international-sized rather than jumbo-American sized anyway). And... ehh, I never get to fly First or Business class anyway.

Alpha Golf

Thanks Scott.

I love the idea of F on the -400s. Something so oxymoronic about it.

So I guess PMUA 8-abreast J stays on the 3-class 77s? Well good thing (for me) my primare route is downguaged to 75.

planemechanic

Time to upgrade to an iPad?

belfordrocks

For a business class passenger two-class is much more preferable to three-class as in the two-class cabin Business(First) is their flagship product, while three-cabin business is merely the "middle tier". While hard product may be comparable the sense of prestige is lost.

Think about it as if UA had no 1K tier- then the 1Ps would be treated much better than they are now.

sbm12

There are no 777-200LRs in the combined fleet. There are ERs and those will be getting the E+ seats along with all the other aircraft.

No. It means that if the flight is marketed as BF - namely JFK-SFO/LAX and HNL-EWR/IAH - then it won't get UDU/EUAs. I do not believe there are any other routes in the domestic network that do not qualify. DEN-HNL will be an interesting one to watch as it is currently a domestic config aircraft and it is switching to an international config.
Dunno where the oxymoron is but none of the 767-400s are getting an F cabin. The retrofit will see them in a two cabin configuration, not three.

danville 1K

I think he was referring to the Q-400s, not the 767-400s.

skidooman

Hi Mr. O'Leary:

I hope that my systemwide vouchers will still be any good. Yeah, I know, I would be a more profitable customer if I was buying F and C, but at least because of these SWUs, you are getting a good chunk of my travel budget - $40K, possibly $50K soon.

This is great news. Frankly, UAL metal video leaves much to be desired, but Continental is up to par with the best.

That is also a great news. I breathed better once I knew E+ was still going to be around. And right now I am avoiding Continental because of the lack of E+, unless I can get bulkhead. And then, when I try to reserve bulkhead through united.com on continental metal (but united flight number), I cannot get my seat assigned. I guess your IT guys have a few things for them to do?

That is still fine, but I hope this does not mean the end of free programming. Especially international. I guess not, since the plane won't be able to see the sat anyway.

I guess people are nervous about their SWUs, so am I. But if you come up with something that still entices us to keep our loyalties with United/Continental, I think you will be pleasantly surprised at the bottom line.

joshwex90

I'm confused. If it's marketed as BF, then no UDU, same as EWR/IAH-HNL.

dinoscool3

I was thinking, I wonder if this means a turn for the good? Could it be that Smisek was trying to push us, saw that it wasn't a good idea, then is retreating back? Would be nice if true...