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Old May 20, 2011, 8:45 am
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In Manhattan, DL seems to have a more visible presence than CO/UA and/or AA when it comes to ad placement.

Perhaps it is time to find DL ads to demonize too.

Originally Posted by joshwex90
The AA one is "The only U.S. carrier with First class and Business class on all flights to London."
Was that a reference to just NYC area service to London? I was under the impression that for years now AA still has flights to London from other airports in the US where it only has two classes of service.

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Old May 20, 2011, 8:45 am
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Guessing the next step by the new CO management will be inaugurating a flight EWR-Shanksville.

Thankfully the ad has been pulled:
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...d-WTC-NYC.html
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Old May 20, 2011, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by bmvaughn
Predictable outcome. If the ad had remained there, some types would make even more of a stink about it.

Does anyone know at what time the display was pulled physically?
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Old May 20, 2011, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
In Manhattan, DL seems to have a more visible presence than CO/UA and/or AA when it comes to ad placement.

Perhaps it is time to find DL ads to demonize too.



Was that a reference to just NYC area service to London? I was under the impression that for years now AA still has flights to London from other airports in the US where it only has two classes of service.
I don't remember, but there's a good chance the ad said from NYC. Which would make sense actually, because UA flies both F and C. But not from NYC
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Old May 20, 2011, 9:21 am
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Honestly -- I see why people are upset by the placement of the ad, but I have to say the connection wouldn't have jumped to my mind.

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Old May 20, 2011, 9:38 am
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Welcome to modern, pervassive advertising. There will always be hits & misses.

Originally Posted by FCO_SFO
An article on the ad placement is now linked on the Drudgereport, so any hopes that UACO had that this would simply fade away are pretty well dashed.
This isn't about ad placement, it's about modern advertising. There's a big difference. If not for the feelings people have for ground zero, this would have been part of something showing the humorous side of ad placement. We've all seen things incredibly inappropriate. Was it 60 Minutes last Sunday that was doing a piece on rape and a Cialis commercial came on? Not that that was in any way humorous.

Advertising on a massive scale is going to have its share of hits & misses. The person in charge of putting the ad up, physically, is in no way empowered to make decisions about... anything. That person may not even understand English, much less the cultural significance of an area.

A relevant question would be, if this had been brought up to someone who could do something about it, would it have been dealt with appropriately (even if "appropriately" might mean being more "pc" than we really should have to be)? And what is the motivation of people who bring this up to make a public spectacle out of it instead of trying to contact someone at UA?

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Old May 20, 2011, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by gawhite411
Honestly -- I see why people are upset by the placement of the ad, but I have to say the connection wouldn't have jumped to my mind.
My office is a 5 minute walk from ground zero. I concur with gawhite411.
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Old May 20, 2011, 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by violist
How clueless. Simply appalling.
Agreed and it's not rocket science....

Ad agency comes up with an idea
Said idea is promoted to the client
Client signs off on the idea
Ad agency runs the ad
BUT SOMEONE AT THE AD AGENCY NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT PLACEMENT OF THE ADS
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Old May 20, 2011, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by goalie
Agreed and it's not rocket science....

Ad agency comes up with an idea
Said idea is promoted to the client
Client signs off on the idea
Ad agency runs the ad
BUT SOMEONE AT THE AD AGENCY NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT PLACEMENT OF THE ADS
Those ads might be going up in thousands of places. What mechanism do you propose to make sure they're appropriate in each? This is all about scale, and at some point unintended consequences are unavoidable, but greatly overshadowed by the benefits of the overall project.

Looking at my own marketing, what happens if I'm sending out a snail-mail piece on things you can do with your bike (increase its utility) and out of 10,000 flyers, a handful go to people now deceased and provide an especially sad reminder to a couple of wives or husbands who lost their partner in a bicycle accident? Should I have been going through the obits to look for people to remove from my list? Rather than callously just pushing a button to enable a standard campaign, damn the consequences? (Real-life example, by the way, and you feel terrible taking the phone call or visit from the spouse)

Mistakes like these happen every day, everywhere. Look for an opportunity to make a big deal out of someone's unintentional gaffe and you will find it. The question is, how does the company behind the gaffe deal with it? That's what determines, in my mind, the measure of the company.

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Originally Posted by Brasila
Well the ads are backfiring because COUA has gotten a lot of national and international press/media out of it's lack of sensitivity for using 9/11 flight numbers and now that wonderful ad across from ground zero. All within 48 hours of each other. Oh that's right, COUA really doesn't care what anyone thinks because they are the best and always right. When a company is wrong it simply needs to apologize and admit it. That has been proven over and over again in the business world.
You mean like this?

"We are taking immediate steps to remove them and apologize for the error," a United spokesman said. (A reference to recycling the flight numbers, not the ad)

Did anybody read the article I linked to above, the one mentioned in the Drudge Report? The ads were approved for placement by the MTA.

You can bash Jeff S and the changes he's bringing to flying on UA, but the angst in this thread is misplaced.
Originally Posted by Shareholder
This story is now on CNN and definitely not UA's fault. The agency that placed the posters is supposed to have them down today. Someone's head will roll for stupidity, but it won't be in Chicago or Houston.
+1

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Old May 20, 2011, 10:57 am
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This story is now on CNN and definitely not UA's fault. The agency that placed the posters is supposed to have them down today. Someone's head will roll for stupidity, but it won't be in Chicago or Houston.
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Old May 20, 2011, 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by Brasila
Having the right to build a mosque in the US where people own that property is a right the last time I checked. Are you making an emotional argument?
Emotional or not, it's not a line of discussion that's topical for this forum; I'm sure there are threads in OMNI/PR that can entertain further dialog should anyone wish to continue.

Thanks for everyone's understanding,

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Old May 20, 2011, 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by joshwex90
I did not lose my father on 9/11 (thank God,) but he just made it out of Building 7. He walks there every day, and I asked him about it. "Poor choice of a place to put it, but not even close to the level of reinstating the flight numbers."

I agree. Not the best. But certainly not the end of the world. And certainly not the fault of Smisek, or any other corporate management at CO, UA, United Continental Holdings...



I've also noticed this intense campaign war, but I primarily see it with DL and UA/CO. AA to a lesser extent
I see. I just see all the AA "non-stop from JFK" ads on cabs and some billboards. Of course UA has managed to spam Times Square
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Old May 20, 2011, 11:27 am
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Major overreaction, just IMO.
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Old May 20, 2011, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by seanp7
Major overreaction, just IMO.
+1. It obviously wasn't on purpose AND they're taking it down just hrs after they heard about it. It'll be fine ^
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