Upcoming Pacific Gauge Changes for CO/UA

Old Apr 16, 11, 7:30 am
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Upcoming Pacific Gauge Changes for CO/UA

Upcoming Pacific flying changes announced internally:

April 15, 2011

Subject: Pacific Gauge Optimization (Fall 2011)
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As merger integration continues, United aircraft and crews will continue to operate on some routes formerly covered by Continental aircraft and crews, and vice versa. This effort optimizes our route network, better utilizes our aircraft resources, and allows us to better serve our customers. Redeploying aircraft places the right size aircraft in each market, and doing so maximizes revenue and minimizes cost.

The following redeployments begin with the fall schedule and will be loaded in our reservation systems by April 23, 2011.

HKG-SGN moves from UA 747 to CO 737 (effective October 30, 2011)

HKG-SIN moves from UA 747 to CO 737 (effective October 30, 2011)

GUM-NRT moves from CO 767 and CO 737 to UA 777 (effective October 30, 2011)

HNL-GUM moves from CO 767 to UA 777 (effective October 28, 2011)Additionally, we also plan to begin new, four-times-a-week CO 737 service this fall between Guam (GUM) and Okinawa (OKA), Japan, as well as daily CO 737 service between Narita (NRT) and Hong Kong (HKG).

Schedule and aircraft changes are a normal part of our business and w...e will continue to strive to make the best use of all of our resources. Exchanging Continental and United aircraft in markets will not affect the overall balance of scheduled aircraft block hours between the two subsidiaries. However, the base that is assigned to work a specific flight pairing may change. We will see additional changes as the integration progresses, and as always, we will advise you of changes as they occur.
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Old Apr 16, 11, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by Bear96 View Post
Upcoming Pacific flying changes announced internally:
I like the changes announced, especially the upgauge from HNL-GUM to a UA777. My boss likes to fly that route so there will be more room and space and FINALLY economy plus to Guam!!!

I'm sure some will have concerns about the 747 leaving HKG routes.
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Old Apr 16, 11, 8:13 am
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CX must be scared poopless with UA invading HKG with a fleet of 737s

Oh for more widebodies...
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Old Apr 16, 11, 9:14 am
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Doesn't look like these aircraft/schedule changes have been uploaded into the system yet.
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Old Apr 16, 11, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by mh3265a View Post
Doesn't look like these aircraft/schedule changes have been uploaded into the system yet.
The phrase: "The following redeployments begin with the fall schedule and will be loaded in our reservation systems by April 23, 2011." apparently threw you off......
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Old Apr 16, 11, 11:11 am
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HKG-SGN moves from 747 to 737 (effective October 30, 2011)

HKG-SIN moves from 747 to 737 (effective October 30, 2011)



Another change I don't like Jeffrey. Unbelievable. Even Tiger Airways flies an A320.

What's the CO fetish with Guam?
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Old Apr 16, 11, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by doobierw View Post
The phrase: "The following redeployments begin with the fall schedule and will be loaded in our reservation systems by April 23, 2011." apparently threw you off......
Boy I need more coffee in the AM!!!!
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Old Apr 16, 11, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer View Post
What's the CO fetish with Guam?
CO has operated a medium-sized hub out of GUM for some time now. It serves as a great hub for serving Micronesia and other areas of in the Asia-Pacific region. I think we may see some increase in flights out of GUM as the merger continues...
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Originally Posted by mh3265a View Post
CO has operated a medium-sized hub out of GUM for some time now. It serves as a great hub for serving Micronesia and other areas of in the Asia-Pacific region. I think we may see some increase in flights out of GUM as the merger continues...
Would be nice to see the new UA serve DPS (Bali), maybe from GUM!!
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Old Apr 16, 11, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by SF1K View Post
Would be nice to see the new UA serve DPS (Bali), maybe from GUM!!
Agreed! CO used to fly GUM-DPS but discontinued a few years back when gas prices were soaring. They have expressed an interest in starting those flights back up when demand was restored. We'll see...maybe the cancellation of the GUM-NAN-HNL route will free up a CO 737 for the DPS route again?
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer View Post
HKG-SGN moves from 747 to 737 (effective October 30, 2011)

HKG-SIN moves from 747 to 737 (effective October 30, 2011)



Another change I don't like Jeffrey. Unbelievable. Even Tiger Airways flies an A320.

What's the CO fetish with Guam?
Those are relatively short flights that are getting downgauged; I don't see the problem. Going to SIN from the USA, just route via NRT instead of HKG to stay on large aircraft. And HKG-SGN is 925 miles; a 737 won't hurt much.

As for our new airline providing good service to/from Guam, what is wrong with that? Another place you have the option of exploring on your airline.
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Old Apr 16, 11, 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by SF1K View Post
Would be nice to see the new UA serve DPS (Bali), maybe from GUM!!
As the old CO did just a few years ago, I believe. But yes, I agree!
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I can only imagine GUM getting a boost in some traffic from the eventual move of 8,000 marines and their families and support personnel move from Okinawa in 2014. Tens of thousands of more people on GUM would probably bring a larger demand for flights.
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer View Post
HKG-SGN moves from 747 to 737 (effective October 30, 2011)

HKG-SIN moves from 747 to 737 (effective October 30, 2011)



Another change I don't like Jeffrey. Unbelievable. Even Tiger Airways flies an A320.

What's the CO fetish with Guam?

You would have thought they downgrade HKG/NRT flights to destinations with existing flights to the US (PEK and ICN) before SIN and SGN. The only way for someone to get to these two destinations on UA/CO is connecting and now you go from an International 777/744 to probably a barebones 738 with no IFE. (Well you still have NRT-SIN on a widebody...for now)
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Old Apr 16, 11, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by nova08 View Post
You would have thought they downgrade HKG/NRT flights to destinations with existing flights to the US (PEK and ICN) before SIN and SGN. The only way for someone to get to these two destinations on UA/CO is connecting and now you go from an International 777/744 to probably a barebones 738 with no IFE. (Well you still have NRT-SIN on a widebody...for now)
Exactly. Unbelievable. Let's be honest about it, HKG and SIN are 1st world, 1st tier destinations. To not provide at least Int'l business class, 2-aisle service is pathetic.

And Guam is, well, Guam. The Cleveland of international hubs. Oh wait, CO has a hub there too. Suddenly it is becoming clear...
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