Consolidated Connection time/logistics-Domestic & International at IAH [ARCHIVE]
#1291
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As for your son -- dual nationality can be a tricky subject and off-topic for the Houston connection thread. The US requires that he use his US passport to enter and leave the United States. (Source: US State Department). Japanese law appears to be the same (Article 60 & 61 here ; lawyer's explanation here). So, in theory, that would mean you'd want to use his US passport when on US soil and his Japanese passport when on Japanese soil. However, dual nationality is tricky, especially because it's not really recognized by Japan (all Japanese dual nationals are required to select a nationality by age 22), and I don't want to give you bad advice. If you have friends or family members in the same situation, you might want to ask them what they've done, or you might want to do some further investigation on your own, perhaps by contacting the Japanese embassy or a qualified immigration attorney in Japan.
None of this affects the procedure inside the Houston airport, though, just what documents you need to show when.
Enjoy your trip.
PS: Sorry, I just realized that my original message might have been a little confusing. I said "I'm assuming that you're traveling on a non-US passport" not because it changes the transfer procedure -- it doesn't -- but because most Americans wouldn't think to ask this question. There used to be a form stapled inside non-US passports on certain visa types upon arrival into the US; the airline check-in agent removed those. However, I don't believe those have been used in years, and I don't think you would have gotten one anyway, because whether you entered on an immigration visa or as a green-card holder you didn't need one. Leaving the US is really pretty straightforward.
Last edited by jsloan; Mar 9, 2018 at 11:40 pm Reason: Added PS
#1292
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Thank you. I have been to Japan to go see my family many times in the past so what document to use is fine for me. I get out from USA with green card and Japanese passport and enter with Japanese passport.Son gets out USA with his USA passport and enter with Japanese passport, get out with Japanese passport and enter into USA with his USA passport. He has been to Japan once so, I am good for that.
We used to take a trip from IAD (Washington Dulles Airport) -Tokyo (direct flight) and when we go to terminal after check in, right before the security checkpoint, there was always the officer at desk and check our passport. I did not check my passport but I assumed that it was when the departure stamp was stamped onto our passport.
The route with indirect flight is not new to us;used IAD-detroit-nagoya Japan before but,it was so long time ago and I was not remembering how we did connection for passport's departure stamp stuff.
This recent flight route via houston is very new and was not sure...
So, if we do not interact with immigration officer at any point from terminal B to terminal D, then, my passport would not have departure stamp at all? That would not create entering issue for missing stamp of departure when returned to USA?
We used to take a trip from IAD (Washington Dulles Airport) -Tokyo (direct flight) and when we go to terminal after check in, right before the security checkpoint, there was always the officer at desk and check our passport. I did not check my passport but I assumed that it was when the departure stamp was stamped onto our passport.
The route with indirect flight is not new to us;used IAD-detroit-nagoya Japan before but,it was so long time ago and I was not remembering how we did connection for passport's departure stamp stuff.
This recent flight route via houston is very new and was not sure...
So, if we do not interact with immigration officer at any point from terminal B to terminal D, then, my passport would not have departure stamp at all? That would not create entering issue for missing stamp of departure when returned to USA?
#1293
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We used to take a trip from IAD (Washington Dulles Airport) -Tokyo (direct flight) and when we go to terminal after check in, right before the security checkpoint, there was always the officer at desk and check our passport. I did not check my passport but I assumed that it was when the departure stamp was stamped onto our passport.
So, if we do not interact with immigration officer at any point from terminal B to terminal D, then, my passport would not have departure stamp at all? That would not create entering issue for missing stamp of departure when returned to USA?
So, if we do not interact with immigration officer at any point from terminal B to terminal D, then, my passport would not have departure stamp at all? That would not create entering issue for missing stamp of departure when returned to USA?
#1294
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Thank you. I have been to Japan to go see my family many times in the past so what document to use is fine for me. I get out from USA with green card and Japanese passport and enter with Japanese passport.Son gets out USA with his USA passport and enter with Japanese passport, get out with Japanese passport and enter into USA with his USA passport. He has been to Japan once so, I am good for that.
We used to take a trip from IAD (Washington Dulles Airport) -Tokyo (direct flight) and when we go to terminal after check in, right before the security checkpoint, there was always the officer at desk and check our passport. I did not check my passport but I assumed that it was when the departure stamp was stamped onto our passport.
The route with indirect flight is not new to us;used IAD-detroit-nagoya Japan before but,it was so long time ago and I was not remembering how we did connection for passport's departure stamp stuff.
This recent flight route via houston is very new and was not sure...
So, if we do not interact with immigration officer at any point from terminal B to terminal D, then, my passport would not have departure stamp at all? That would not create entering issue for missing stamp of departure when returned to USA?
The route with indirect flight is not new to us;used IAD-detroit-nagoya Japan before but,it was so long time ago and I was not remembering how we did connection for passport's departure stamp stuff.
This recent flight route via houston is very new and was not sure...
So, if we do not interact with immigration officer at any point from terminal B to terminal D, then, my passport would not have departure stamp at all? That would not create entering issue for missing stamp of departure when returned to USA?
#1295
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Thank you. I guess i was thinking all wrong for many years thinking whoever sit at the desk right in front of TSA checkpoint who asks for passport and tickets and write/type something was giving us stamps,lol.
I checked passport and realized we got no exit stamp from USA and just we had departure/entry stamp at Japan.
So, I guess Airport staff at Houston who said to me I need to get departure stamp at their Airport was wrong then.
Since I have heard that Houston Airport got long line of custom etc.., I worried if we had to mingle with those passengers coming into USA just to get a departure stamp.I am glad to know we do not have to be in the line for anything after getting off from the plane:-)Just go from one terminal to the other via skyway.
I checked passport and realized we got no exit stamp from USA and just we had departure/entry stamp at Japan.
So, I guess Airport staff at Houston who said to me I need to get departure stamp at their Airport was wrong then.
Since I have heard that Houston Airport got long line of custom etc.., I worried if we had to mingle with those passengers coming into USA just to get a departure stamp.I am glad to know we do not have to be in the line for anything after getting off from the plane:-)Just go from one terminal to the other via skyway.
#1296
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Portland, OR
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1 hour 10 min layover at IAH for international flight
Is this realistic at all, or high chance of missing connection? PDX to GCM
We would be checking bags.
Thanks!
We would be checking bags.
Thanks!
#1297
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Wait, you're going FROM PDX to IAH, and from IAH to GCM?
Outbound?
You'd have zero problems.
Inbound, that's another story.
But outbound, it's not any different than any other flight connection, with the exception of having to show your passport to the gate agent for GCM.
Outbound?
You'd have zero problems.
Inbound, that's another story.
But outbound, it's not any different than any other flight connection, with the exception of having to show your passport to the gate agent for GCM.
#1298
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Is this a daily or weekly flight?
Schedules are padded to reflect on time arrival, but I would check recent flights to see how the PDX flights are.
I had a tighter connection to SIN at LAX with 67% of flights arriving late, some of them after SIN departure, so called UA. They offered me a flight a day later
SIN is daily, so decided that if I misconnect, they would have to make it right.
We arrived late, but SiN departure was even later, but I lost my chance to stop at United Club as a result. Had this been a weekly flight, I would have tried harder to get on an earlier flight @:-)
Schedules are padded to reflect on time arrival, but I would check recent flights to see how the PDX flights are.
I had a tighter connection to SIN at LAX with 67% of flights arriving late, some of them after SIN departure, so called UA. They offered me a flight a day later
SIN is daily, so decided that if I misconnect, they would have to make it right.
We arrived late, but SiN departure was even later, but I lost my chance to stop at United Club as a result. Had this been a weekly flight, I would have tried harder to get on an earlier flight @:-)
#1299
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If it's PDX-IAH-GCM, you'll be fine. Worst case is you have to go from C6 or so to E18 or so, but that's doable in even 50 minutes if you hustle. I'm going to assume your PDX-IAH flight is the 5am flight, is that correct? If so, I see no reason you'll be anything other than early or on-time unless there's a serious mechanical issue.
#1300
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Thanks for both replies. It is the 5 am flight PDX-IAH-GCM. On the way back to Portland, the layover at IAH is 2 hours, leaving GCM around 5 pm. I assumed 2 hours coming back would be fine so I didn't ask about that one.
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Especially with an overnight stay for your plane in PDX you are probably fine. I'd be more concerned with coming back.
While 2 hours is usually enough to clear Immigration, Customs and domestic security, I'd say it's cutting it a little close, especially if you have to also pick up and after customs drop off your bag as well.
VERY doable, but I would not linger.
While 2 hours is usually enough to clear Immigration, Customs and domestic security, I'd say it's cutting it a little close, especially if you have to also pick up and after customs drop off your bag as well.
VERY doable, but I would not linger.
#1302
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Especially with an overnight stay for your plane in PDX you are probably fine. I'd be more concerned with coming back.
While 2 hours is usually enough to clear Immigration, Customs and domestic security, I'd say it's cutting it a little close, especially if you have to also pick up and after customs drop off your bag as well.
VERY doable, but I would not linger.
While 2 hours is usually enough to clear Immigration, Customs and domestic security, I'd say it's cutting it a little close, especially if you have to also pick up and after customs drop off your bag as well.
VERY doable, but I would not linger.
#1303
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Looking at schedules from MID (Mérida, MX) to NRT, I see flights that should be a legal connection via IAH, but they don't show up in searches on Google Flights, Matrix/ITA or united.com:
On ExpertFlyer it shows minimum connections as:
Doesn't that mean a UA-NH international-to-international connection should be legal with 1h11m?
Code:
UA1427 09JUL MID-IAH 812a - 1019a NH7/UA7937 09JUL IAH-NRT 1130a - 320p
Code:
Minimum Connect TimesShare Results STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I. ONLINE .45 1.00 1.00 1.15 OFFLINE .45 1.00 1.00 1.15 ** OR * ARE ALL UA-NH II 1.10 ALL - FLT 6451 ALL - NRT UA-** II SUP FLT 1 - 9998 - ALL HAV - ALL
#1304
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Looking at schedules from MID (Mérida, MX) to NRT, I see flights that should be a legal connection via IAH, but they don't show up in searches on Google Flights, Matrix/ITA or united.com:
On ExpertFlyer it shows minimum connections as:
Doesn't that mean a UA-NH international-to-international connection should be legal with 1h11m?
Code:
UA1427 09JUL MID-IAH 812a - 1019a NH7/UA7937 09JUL IAH-NRT 1130a - 320p
Code:
Minimum Connect TimesShare Results STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I. ONLINE .45 1.00 1.00 1.15 OFFLINE .45 1.00 1.00 1.15 ** OR * ARE ALL UA-NH II 1.10 ALL - FLT 6451 ALL - NRT UA-** II SUP FLT 1 - 9998 - ALL HAV - ALL
There are two applicable rules for your proposed flight:
UA-UA II 1.15 ALL - FLT 7937
OFFLINE ... 1.15
OFFLINE ... 1.15
The extra five minutes is presumably intended to give you enough time to get over to terminal D, which is where the NH gate would be.
#1305
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Thanks, @jsloan.
I've taken the UA-NH connection MID-IAH-NRT in the past, but it must have had the required 1h15m. It's a ongoing sore subject to folks I know in Mérida that during most times of the year UA can't/won't operate the MID-IAH flight just a few minutes earlier to enable connections to Asia via IAH-NRT.
I've taken the UA-NH connection MID-IAH-NRT in the past, but it must have had the required 1h15m. It's a ongoing sore subject to folks I know in Mérida that during most times of the year UA can't/won't operate the MID-IAH flight just a few minutes earlier to enable connections to Asia via IAH-NRT.