Last edit by: drewguy
Version 1 is no longer in service (12 Feb 2017).
Note: This Wiki and thread is devoted to the pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1. There is a second thread, and more extensive Wiki about both planes, in the Wiki and thread on Version 2. This thread should be used for discussion of Version 1, although older posts may refer to Version 2 (they were split 8/30/14).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1360456-everything-you-wanted-know-about-where-sit-pmua-3-cabin-777-version-2-a.html
And, if you're looking for the thread about pmCO 777, it's here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1475682-everything-you-want-know-about-where-sit-pmco-777-international-5.html
How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on Version 1
Version 1 vs. Version 2
There are two version of the international 3-class pmUA airplane.
"Version 1" on the United website has 8 First, 40 Business, and 218 coach seats. (no longer in service)
"Version21" has 8 First, 40 Business, and 221 coach seats. (formerly Version 2 is now Version 1).
One unique attribute of Version 1 was the crew rest seats at the back of the E+ cabin in the middle section of Rows 29 and 30 (seats DEG). On most flights these seats were curtained off and dedicated for use by the crew. However, they were sometimes available when these planes were used on shorter routes and there was no need for crew rest. They provided much better legroom and footrests. This post contains a description and pictures: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25059936-post991.html
Fixed bassinets were available in economy 19G, 34G -- none in BF or GF.
Note: This Wiki and thread is devoted to the pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1. There is a second thread, and more extensive Wiki about both planes, in the Wiki and thread on Version 2. This thread should be used for discussion of Version 1, although older posts may refer to Version 2 (they were split 8/30/14).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1360456-everything-you-wanted-know-about-where-sit-pmua-3-cabin-777-version-2-a.html
And, if you're looking for the thread about pmCO 777, it's here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1475682-everything-you-want-know-about-where-sit-pmco-777-international-5.html
How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on Version 1
Version 1 vs. Version 2
There are two version of the international 3-class pmUA airplane.
"Version
One unique attribute of Version 1 was the crew rest seats at the back of the E+ cabin in the middle section of Rows 29 and 30 (seats DEG). On most flights these seats were curtained off and dedicated for use by the crew. However, they were sometimes available when these planes were used on shorter routes and there was no need for crew rest. They provided much better legroom and footrests. This post contains a description and pictures: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25059936-post991.html
Fixed bassinets were available in economy 19G, 34G -- none in BF or GF.
Everything You Wanted to Know About Where to Sit on a pmUA 3-Cabin 777 Version 1
#901
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I don't believe they do, but I think it's a terrible idea to choose those, as you'll be stuck in the middle and upsetting two other pax, one on either side. I'm not raising the child in biz debate, but I think you and everyone else will be happier if you go for one of the window/aisle pairs of seats.
#902
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I must say -- having just flown both the PMUA and PMCO 777s back-to-back, I think the hard product on the PMUA bird in BF is far superior. Yes, the 2-4-2 configuration sucks, but I found the seat to be SO much more comfortable and conducive to sleeping on the PMUA plane. I was in 8C and, granted, no one was seated in the three seats next to me, but I still just slept so much better than on the PMCO plane.
#903
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I must say -- having just flown both the PMUA and PMCO 777s back-to-back, I think the hard product on the PMUA bird in BF is far superior. Yes, the 2-4-2 configuration sucks, but I found the seat to be SO much more comfortable and conducive to sleeping on the PMUA plane. I was in 8C and, granted, no one was seated in the three seats next to me, but I still just slept so much better than on the PMCO plane.
On my next 777 flight all the middle seats in row 8 are taken so i'm going to try 6C. Lots of folks have recommended the rear-facing seats as good. Does anyone here have anything negative to say about 6C? I'm flying alone and so like the center aisles so that I'm not blocking anyone in and nobody is blocking me. Of course, the PMCO 767-400 is best for that with the middle seat alone and that's what I'm flying on my outbound.
#904
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Does anyone know if the arm-rests between the middle seats in the row of four (so that would be D & G, i think) can be retracted completely btwn the seats? Or is there still a barrier once retracted?
I'm travelling with my wife and a lap child and thought it might be a way to have a bit more room for all 3 of us. Or is that a terrible idea to book those seats?
I'm travelling with my wife and a lap child and thought it might be a way to have a bit more room for all 3 of us. Or is that a terrible idea to book those seats?
#905
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I find your comment very interesting. I've only flown on the UA version and done so 3 times - always in seat 8C. I like the seat, especially the 2 times there was nobody next to me.
On my next 777 flight all the middle seats in row 8 are taken so i'm going to try 6C. Lots of folks have recommended the rear-facing seats as good. Does anyone here have anything negative to say about 6C? I'm flying alone and so like the center aisles so that I'm not blocking anyone in and nobody is blocking me. Of course, the PMCO 767-400 is best for that with the middle seat alone and that's what I'm flying on my outbound.
On my next 777 flight all the middle seats in row 8 are taken so i'm going to try 6C. Lots of folks have recommended the rear-facing seats as good. Does anyone here have anything negative to say about 6C? I'm flying alone and so like the center aisles so that I'm not blocking anyone in and nobody is blocking me. Of course, the PMCO 767-400 is best for that with the middle seat alone and that's what I'm flying on my outbound.
I cannot think of any other seats better than 6C/6H unless one prefers a window seats.
#906
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Not sure, though pictures like the one below make it appear that they might. I strongly (like, really strongly) agree with drewguy ... don't pick those seats if a pair of seats is your goal. I'd rather camp out in a pair on the side and not bother or be bothered by anyone every day of the week.
#907
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I must say -- having just flown both the PMUA and PMCO 777s back-to-back, I think the hard product on the PMUA bird in BF is far superior. Yes, the 2-4-2 configuration sucks, but I found the seat to be SO much more comfortable and conducive to sleeping on the PMUA plane. I was in 8C and, granted, no one was seated in the three seats next to me, but I still just slept so much better than on the PMCO plane.
#908
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I don't think I've had an empty seat next to me on at least ten prior TPAC/TATL's.
If they don't fill the cabin with upgraders, they'll fill it with nonrevs.
#909
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+1 - I'm on an average of four BF/GF flights per week and I can't recall the last time the seat next to me wasn't occupied.
#910
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My last MUC-IAD flight two weeks ago was only half full in BF, and yes, I was surprised, because on our IAD-FRA flight 10 days earlier, BF was full.
#911
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Take a look at the E+ seating. If it's pretty empty it means most of the flyers are non-elite, which means fewer upgraders and your chances are better.
FWIW, I've had recent flights go out with a couple of empty seats in biz, including midweek from NRT-IAD, which is usually full.
#912
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We could get 20 posts saying "yeah I had a half empty BF cabin last week on x route" and that wouldn't change the basic point, which is that UA usually fills the BF cabin with either upgrades or nonrevs.
#913
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While on the upgrade list for a GPU to clear, if you were to select a E+ seat, which would you choose between these choices for leg room - 19G or exit row 33? Unfortunately 20AB/JK + 21C/H are already taken.
#914
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That said, I'd still take it over staring into people congregating around the lavs, although the legroom is otherwise better in Row 33.
#915
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I have been relatively lucky with using my upgrades on international flights. However, I was wondering if one were "stuck" in E+, perhaps by being in an exit row windows seat (33A or 33K), the people congregating by the lav would not right in front of you as the emergency exit door would be protruding out a bit. However I suppose people could be reclining against the emergency exit door.