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Old Apr 16, 2015, 1:56 pm
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What follows is my assessment of where to sit on the 744, which I sampled on a recent flight from SYD-SFO. I sat in E+ for three hours before a flight cancellation on Tuesday and in 15K in the upper deck in business for 13 hours the following day, so I feel sufficiently well-informed to dispense advice for those cabins. I cannot, however, make a recommendation for business class seating on the lower deck or the E- minus cabin, so with that caveat, here is my feedback on the upper deck . . .

Where should I sit in the upper deck? Any seats better than others?

Unlike the old configuration of the upper deck where certain seats – especially the exit row seats in row 15 – are appreciably better, on the new configuration, there is not really much to distinguish between the upper deck seats except for the limited caveats noted below.

What seats should I try to avoid?

There are only five seats that are nominally less attractive than the rest. 12 J & K are close to the forward lavatories and the flight deck so you can expect increased foot traffic and noise during the flight. The shell for 14K protrudes backward into the exit door area and partially overlaps with the exit door causing a nominal reduction in the view and a possible cold spot due to airflow penetrating the door seal. 17 J & K lose a good deal of privacy because they are visible from the top of the stairs and suffer from increased noise and light from the galley and traffic to and from the galley.

Window or aisle?

Window, definitely. And I say this as someone who is typically an aisle guy. You get the side bins for storage, the view, a little more peace and privacy being further removed from the aisle, and avoid the possibility of being disrupted by a seatmate climbing over you. Climbing over a seatmate in the aisle seat who is in the sleeping configuration requires a little bit of dexterity, but certainly is not terribly difficult for anyone who is at least 6 feet tall. Those who are substantially shorter than 6 feet may want to avoid the window, however.

Forward or backward?

Doesn’t really matter. Due to the pitch of the aircraft, those facing backwards will have their feet slightly below their heads in the sleeping configuration, but we are really splitting hairs here. Personally, I prefer the backward-facing view from the upper deck because you can see the wing and the engines.

What if I’m traveling with more than two people?

You will not be able to see or converse with the passengers whose feet oppose yours behind the wall adjoining the foot pocket and video panel. In other words, to give one example, the passengers in 15 J & K are fully walled-off from the passengers in 16 J & K. The shell of the seat also provides full privacy from behind. So, if you want to keep an eye on travel companions, you should try to sit diagonally across the aisle from one other. Passengers in 15 J & K, for example, will have a good view of passengers in 16 A & B, and vice versa. Actually, if you are travelling in a group of more than two and being able to chat is important to you, you'll probably want to sit in the middle section of the lower deck.

What happened to the exit row?

For all intents and purposes, it doesn’t exist. The seats in both rows 14 and 15 both back up to the exit area creating something more akin to an exit corridor. No extra legroom or particular advantage to these seats.

How is the seat for sleeping?

It’s a true, parallel-to-the-ground lie-flat seat, which is the big improvement. The arm rests on both sides can be manually lowered so that they don’t extend above the seat in bed configuration, which further increases arm and shoulder room. Unfortunately, for window seaters, there will be a healthy gap between the lowered arm rest and the side bins which means that the extra room on one side isn’t particularly useful since if you stick your arm far enough off the seat, it will essentially drop off a cliff with nothing to prop it up. As a 6-footer, my left foot was a little bit cramped due to the curvature of the foot-pocket, although this was not terribly bothersome. Both my seatmate and I felt that the seat lacked sufficient padding in the lumbar region of the back so we both woke up with sore lower backs.

What is the audio and video on-demand like?

For United and in comparison to the old configuration, great. The video screens are positively huge. There aren’t as many movies as one may find on airlines like Singapore, but still, there should be enough features to keep all but the most demanding and fickle passengers entertained.

As for the E+ cabin . . .

Seat pitch seems indistinguishable throughout, the bulkhead row 19 excepted. I don't care for the seats in row 19 myself because the hard bulkhead without cutouts effectively prevents all but the shortest traveler from stretching out his or her feet. This is true of both the outside seats as well as the middle section.

I would strongly advise against any D seat -- the aisle seats on the port side of the middle section -- because the audio boxes are beneath those seats and inhibit leg room for the left foot. There still should be enough room to place both feet, but only at a fairly sharp and uncomfortable angle.

As an aisle guy, I would go with one of the G seats. No audio box inhibiting leg room and landlocked middle seat passengers can access the aisle in either direction cutting in half your chance of getting bumped or bothered while you are trying to sleep.

There are still no individual seat-back video screens, unfortunately, so you are stuck with whatever programming UA runs on the main screens. Fortunately, the main screens have been upgraded to LCD screens. Sit at least a few rows back from row 19 to avoid being uncomfortably close to the screens.
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Old Apr 2, 2015, 4:24 am
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So I sat in 15A on the way over from SFO to PEK last weekend. 15A seems to have the same issue as 13A has which is a mis-aligned TV screen from the direction the seat faces. Honestly, I had never noticed it in 13A until someone mentioned it in this thread. Then it bothered me the whole way over in 15A Thanks <g>

It's really not "that" bad. But it is noticeable.

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Old Apr 2, 2015, 6:29 am
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Originally Posted by RobOnLI
So I sat in 15A on the way over from SFO to PEK last weekend. 15K seems to have the same issue as 13A has which is a mis-aligned TV screen from the direction the seat faces. Honestly, I had never noticed it in 13A until someone mentioned it in this thread. Then it bothered me the whole way over in 15A Thanks <g>

It's really not "that" bad. But it is noticeable.

-RM
Oh great. 15A or 15K is my home on all 747 flights. Now I have this in my mind...LOL

Have to see if I notice anything in a couple weeks.
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Under seat boxes in Economy

There seems to be contradictory info on which seats in the Economy central section have the under seat electrical boxes that take up some legroom. The sticky wiki says only D seats have the boxes, while another poster said that both D and G seats have the boxes but they were bigger under the G boxes.

Can someone help clear this up? Or does it vary depending on the plane? Thanks.
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Old Apr 2, 2015, 10:33 pm
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Originally Posted by RobOnLI
So I sat in 15A on the way over from SFO to PEK last weekend. 15K seems to have the same issue as 13A has which is a mis-aligned TV screen from the direction the seat faces. Honestly, I had never noticed it in 13A until someone mentioned it in this thread. Then it bothered me the whole way over in 15A Thanks <g>

It's really not "that" bad. But it is noticeable.
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Oh great. 15A or 15K is my home on all 747 flights. Now I have this in my mind...LOL
Been in 15A/K plenty of times, and somehow screen never bothered me

Don't think about it and enjoy UD experience before the Queen of the Skies goes into the sunset ...

Originally Posted by SF_trotter
There seems to be contradictory info on which seats in the Economy central section have the under seat electrical boxes that take up some legroom. The sticky wiki says only D seats have the boxes, while another poster said that both D and G seats have the boxes but they were bigger under the G boxes.

Can someone help clear this up? Or does it vary depending on the plane? Thanks.
All 747s (except a couple originally ordered by NW) are the same (except two 747s that don't have power in Y).

My educated guess (I don't book a 747 unless I can u/g or sit in exit row) is that if it's in D, then it's also in G. But again I never sit in those seats unless I can get all 4 to myself, which just does not happen these days.
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Old Apr 9, 2015, 9:04 pm
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Well, Im flying in E+ HKG-SFO. What is the best E+ seat that you can recommend. Im 6 feet and normally like a window.. (but I am open to other seating) What's your favorite E+ seat? Thanks and Safe Travels
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Well, Im flying in E+ HKG-SFO. What is the best E+ seat that you can recommend. Im 6 feet and normally like a window.. (but I am open to other seating) What's your favorite E+ seat? Thanks and Safe Travels
Row 33 or 45 aisle seats are best - virtually unlimited legroom, with downside of additional noise from lavs (33) or galleys (45). You probably don't want the window though because of the protruding exit slide (if the middle is empty it's a bit less bad because you can angle your legs).
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Looking at UD seats for a solo transpac, probably 13A 15A or 15K. But I need to get up and stretch every hour or so and don't want to hassle the aisle person if they are sleeping. In these seats, is it possible to squeeze into the exit corridor (from 15) or into the space behind 13 (if there is any, though it appears so from the seating charts)??

I do like the little storage bins by the window but if I'm going to disturb someone then perhaps should go for an aisle? I'm 6'1 and large (270 lbs).
thanks!

Also, is there any storage - like ordinary under seat storage - for the aisle seats?

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Originally Posted by MojaveFlyer
Looking at UD seats for a solo transpac, probably 13A 15A or 15K. But I need to get up and stretch every hour or so and don't want to hassle the aisle person if they are sleeping. In these seats, is it possible to squeeze into the exit corridor (from 15) or into the space behind 13 (if there is any, though it appears so from the seating charts)??

I do like the little storage bins by the window but if I'm going to disturb someone then perhaps should go for an aisle? I'm 6'1 and large (270 lbs).
thanks!

Also, is there any storage - like ordinary under seat storage - for the aisle seats?
Someone particularly aerobic and slim could probably squeeze in that space, but in my opinion most people can't do it. You'll want an aisle seat.

And no, there's no under seat storage in any of those biz seats. Maybe for something very small (purse, shoes...), but not for anything of appreciable size (a laptop bag won't fit).
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Originally Posted by MojaveFlyer
In these seats, is it possible to squeeze into the exit corridor (from 15) or into the space behind 13 (if there is any, though it appears so from the seating charts)??
There is no space behind row 13. There's the area around the exit doors between rows 14 and 15. As debracey says, you have to be pretty nimble to make that move successfully.
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Someone particularly aerobic and slim could probably squeeze in that space, but in my opinion most people can't do it. You'll want an aisle seat.
At 6'1" and 175 pounds not all that slim (35" waist) I've exited behind BOTH seats as described upthread (other two, not so much, again as noted upthread).

If you weigh 270 pounds, well it probably ain't gonna happen @:-)
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Thanks guys. Yup, it ain't gonna happen for this flyer

So how hard is it to exit from the window side (I'm lusting after the extra room afforded by the luggage cabinets)? Looking at the pix, it seems a total no brainer when the seats are up. When they are down, you're high stepping over the other pax but really just over their lower legs, can that be done gracefully by a tall person?
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Somewhat gracefully.

A lot of pax have blankets over them, and you are stepping over the width of the bed when it's down.
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Somewhat gracefully.

A lot of pax have blankets over them, and you are stepping over the width of the bed when it's down.
IME the issue is not just the step-over, but the squeeze-through to get past the armrest/divider. "Gracefully" is probably only possible if one is both long-legged and thin.
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Another thing to consider when picking a seat is a good spot where you can actually watch their lousy movies.
These planes don't have in-seat entertainment from my experience. For a 14 hour flight it is not good.
So, bring your own.

I can't figure out the design on it.
The best place by far is the top deck.
The rest even in biz, just seems annoying.
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Originally Posted by Asiatraveler15
Another thing to consider when picking a seat is a good spot where you can actually watch their lousy movies.
These planes don't have in-seat entertainment from my experience. For a 14 hour flight it is not good.
So, bring your own.

I can't figure out the design on it.
The best place by far is the top deck.
The rest even in biz, just seems annoying.

All premium cabin seats on UA 747 have AVOD IFE.

Economy has switched over to streaming media/wifi. BYOD IFE.
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