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From SAT Lawyer's First Post:

Please also see: http://seatexpert.com/seatmap/320/Un..._First_&_Biz)/ and http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni...747-400_B.php]

What follows is my assessment of where to sit on the 744, which I sampled on a recent flight from SYD-SFO. I sat in E+ for three hours before a flight cancellation on Tuesday and in 15K in the upper deck in business for 13 hours the following day, so I feel sufficiently well-informed to dispense advice for those cabins. I cannot, however, make a recommendation for business class seating on the lower deck or the E- minus cabin, so with that caveat, here is my feedback on the upper deck . . .

Where should I sit in the upper deck? Any seats better than others?

Unlike the old configuration of the upper deck where certain seats – especially the exit row seats in row 15 – are appreciably better, on the new configuration, there is not really much to distinguish between the upper deck seats except for the limited caveats noted below.

What seats should I try to avoid?

There are only five seats that are nominally less attractive than the rest. 12 J & K are close to the forward lavatories and the flight deck so you can expect increased foot traffic and noise during the flight. The shell for 14K protrudes backward into the exit door area and partially overlaps with the exit door causing a nominal reduction in the view and a possible cold spot due to airflow penetrating the door seal. 17 J & K lose a good deal of privacy because they are visible from the top of the stairs and suffer from increased noise and light from the galley and traffic to and from the galley.

Window or aisle?

Window, definitely. And I say this as someone who is typically an aisle guy. You get the side bins for storage, the view, a little more peace and privacy being further removed from the aisle, and avoid the possibility of being disrupted by a seatmate climbing over you. Climbing over a seatmate in the aisle seat who is in the sleeping configuration requires a little bit of dexterity, but certainly is not terribly difficult for anyone who is at least 6 feet tall. Those who are substantially shorter than 6 feet may want to avoid the window, however.

Forward or backward?

Doesn’t really matter. Due to the pitch of the aircraft, those facing backwards will have their feet slightly below their heads in the sleeping configuration, but we are really splitting hairs here. Personally, I prefer the backward-facing view from the upper deck because you can see the wing and the engines.

What if I’m traveling with more than two people?

You will not be able to see or converse with the passengers whose feet oppose yours behind the wall adjoining the foot pocket and video panel. In other words, to give one example, the passengers in 15 J & K are fully walled-off from the passengers in 16 J & K. The shell of the seat also provides full privacy from behind. So, if you want to keep an eye on travel companions, you should try to sit diagonally across the aisle from one other. Passengers in 15 J & K, for example, will have a good view of passengers in 16 A & B, and vice versa. Actually, if you are travelling in a group of more than two and being able to chat is important to you, you'll probably want to sit in the middle section of the lower deck.

What happened to the exit row?

For all intents and purposes, it doesn’t exist. The seats in both rows 14 and 15 both back up to the exit area creating something more akin to an exit corridor. No extra legroom or particular advantage to these seats.

How is the seat for sleeping?

It’s a true, parallel-to-the-ground lie-flat seat, which is the big improvement. The arm rests on both sides can be manually lowered so that they don’t extend above the seat in bed configuration, which further increases arm and shoulder room. Unfortunately, for window seaters, there will be a healthy gap between the lowered arm rest and the side bins which means that the extra room on one side isn’t particularly useful since if you stick your arm far enough off the seat, it will essentially drop off a cliff with nothing to prop it up. As a 6-footer, my left foot was a little bit cramped due to the curvature of the foot-pocket, although this was not terribly bothersome. Both my seatmate and I felt that the seat lacked sufficient padding in the lumbar region of the back so we both woke up with sore lower backs.

What is the audio and video on-demand like?

For United and in comparison to the old configuration, great. The video screens are positively huge. There aren’t as many movies as one may find on airlines like Singapore, but still, there should be enough features to keep all but the most demanding and fickle passengers entertained.

As for the E+ cabin . . .

Seat pitch seems indistinguishable throughout, the bulkhead row 19 excepted. I don't care for the seats in row 19 myself because the hard bulkhead without cutouts effectively prevents all but the shortest traveler from stretching out his or her feet. This is true of both the outside seats as well as the middle section.

I would strongly advise against any D seat -- the aisle seats on the port side of the middle section -- because the audio boxes are beneath those seats and inhibit leg room for the left foot. There still should be enough room to place both feet, but only at a fairly sharp and uncomfortable angle.

As an aisle guy, I would go with one of the G seats. No audio box inhibiting leg room and landlocked middle seat passengers can access the aisle in either direction cutting in half your chance of getting bumped or bothered while you are trying to sleep.

There are still no individual seat-back video screens, unfortunately, so you are stuck with whatever programming UA runs on the main screens. Fortunately, the main screens have been upgraded to LCD screens. Sit at least a few rows back from row 19 to avoid being uncomfortably close to the screens.
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Old Mar 23, 2010, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
You are misreading the UA seat map (which is easy to do) -- 12K is upper deck first row window bulkhead. The UA seat map does not show the separation of upper and lower deck. The seatguru seatmap is more reflective of reality.
Thanks to all of you I have changed my seat to 15K upper deck. I am only 5'3" so will have a challenge climbing out. I also remember 12K was my favorite in the old config plane!!!^ No climbing!
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Old Mar 23, 2010, 7:56 pm
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How Can I View the Upper Deck 747 Seats on United's Website?

When I go to .bomb, how do I see the upper deck seatmap of a 747? When I look at Business Class, it only shows the lower deck?
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Old Mar 23, 2010, 7:59 pm
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Rows 12-17 are the upper deck
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Old Mar 23, 2010, 8:49 pm
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Yup, UA seatmap is kind of confusing. I figured it out by comparing it to the seatguru seatmap. Also, see the last several posts in this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...nal-cabin.html
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Old Mar 24, 2010, 6:18 pm
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4 people in F?

Any additional thoughts on the ideal seating arrangement for 4 people traveling together in F? We will be two couples - some people earlier in the thread advised taking all of row 3; anyone agree or disagree? Would it be better to book rows 1 and 2? Or maybe the middle pairs in rows 3 and 4? Thoughts welcome - thanks!
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Old Mar 29, 2010, 7:32 am
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Just flew my first trips in the new F suites. I would stay away from row 2 for couples, there is the closet/newspaper/snack podium between the seats so no way to converse (great for flying solo though). From my point of view it looked like the interior two seats of row 3 were the best for couples, and maybe the interior seats of row 4, even though that puts you back near the galley. If you took all of row three I think the separation between the aisle seat and interior seat is not too bad, depends on how much you want to talk to each other. Row 1 seats are definitely closer together, but did not look like they were very good for cross aisle conversation, still a decent amount of space between them.
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Old Mar 29, 2010, 12:27 pm
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If you like fresh air then 3 & 4 could be an issue as they do not have individual vents. I prefer Row 1 even though there is greater separation.
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Old Mar 29, 2010, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Jilani
Any additional thoughts on the ideal seating arrangement for 4 people traveling together in F? We will be two couples - some people earlier in the thread advised taking all of row 3; anyone agree or disagree? Would it be better to book rows 1 and 2? Or maybe the middle pairs in rows 3 and 4? Thoughts welcome - thanks!
I think Row three is the your best bet. If you are two couples, then the wives/GF can sit in the middle section and the two men can sit at the window seats.
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Old Apr 1, 2010, 2:38 pm
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In-Seat Power on new 747 C

Does anyone know if the new in-seat AC plugs on the 747 are 2 or 3 pronged?
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Old Apr 1, 2010, 2:40 pm
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3 pronged
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Old Apr 1, 2010, 5:59 pm
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Awesome. Thanks!
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 8:00 am
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very annoyed-
choosing my seats for lax-mel (4/12).
love sitting upstairs but only row 12 and 17 are available (for the pair- flying with mrs vice) 13-16 all 1 out of the 2 taken.
downstairs 6-8 all free in middle only.

What i want to know is;
-am i restricted to less seats because i'm on a lax-mel (as appose to lax-syd-mel)
-are all the lower cabin a,b j,k seats blocked? or taken?
-can i request (i.e a note on the itinerary to have seats 13-16 in upper cabin if they open)

thanks
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by Noel Vice
very annoyed-
choosing my seats for lax-mel (4/12).
love sitting upstairs but only row 12 and 17 are available (for the pair- flying with mrs vice) 13-16 all 1 out of the 2 taken.
downstairs 6-8 all free in middle only.

What i want to know is;
-am i restricted to less seats because i'm on a lax-mel (as appose to lax-syd-mel)
-are all the lower cabin a,b j,k seats blocked? or taken?
-can i request (i.e a note on the itinerary to have seats 13-16 in upper cabin if they open)

thanks
I'm sure you care much more about the long haul than you do SYD-MEL.. so it's best to check the LAX-SYD seat map. I checked it though and it's the same as what you've described. I would choose row 17 myself. There's no way to waitlist for specific seats.. just keep checking the seatmap daily to see if anything changes, and you can ask at the gate.

You can always get separate seat assignments for each leg of a direct flight..but you typically have to call to do it.

You could also sign up for ExpertFlyer...there is a seat alert function on there that will email you if your requested seat opens up.
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by SEA1K4EVR
I'm sure you care much more about the long haul than you do SYD-MEL.. so it's best to check the LAX-SYD seat map. .
right- however when i open my seat map (on my itineraries) it shows LAX-MEL (as appose to LAX-SYD, SYD- MEL, as it has in the past).

I also prefer to sit in the lower cabin for the SYD-MEL, just to get off the plane faster.

thanks for the advice.
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by Noel Vice
I also prefer to sit in the lower cabin for the SYD-MEL, just to get off the plane faster.
Give them a call, they'll put you downstairs for the SYD-MEL segment and 2 seat assignments will show up on your itinerary online. But, you still may not be able to view the seat maps separately.
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