ua1flyer - A "Real" Up-In-The-Air GS
Dec 20, 2009, 4:10 am
#77
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By my figuring, 700K BIS in 350 days means
Midcons: 216 LGA-DEN rount-trips or one completed r/t every 1.6 days (!)
Transcons: 135 JFK-SFO round-trips or one completed r/t every 2.5 days; or
Transatlantic: 95 IAD-LHR round-trips or one completed r/t every 3.7 days; Transpacs: 31 JFK-SFO-HKG-SIN round-trips or one completed r/t every 11.25 days.
The only one of these that might make sense would be 31 transpacs, but that would mean four days home, 1 day in transit, five days away, 1 day in transit...repeated 31 times. Okay, that's :"doable."
What kind of job keeps you on a plane that much? Why not just get relocated at that point?
Midcons: 216 LGA-DEN rount-trips or one completed r/t every 1.6 days (!)
Transcons: 135 JFK-SFO round-trips or one completed r/t every 2.5 days; or
Transatlantic: 95 IAD-LHR round-trips or one completed r/t every 3.7 days; Transpacs: 31 JFK-SFO-HKG-SIN round-trips or one completed r/t every 11.25 days.
The only one of these that might make sense would be 31 transpacs, but that would mean four days home, 1 day in transit, five days away, 1 day in transit...repeated 31 times. Okay, that's :"doable."
What kind of job keeps you on a plane that much? Why not just get relocated at that point?
When an MR'er says "ouch, that's rough", you know it's another level.
Regarding self-inflicted wounds, if having to travel in Y. After only one TPAC in J (never in Y), with a really packed vacation schedule, I can absolutely say that I could never have pulled off that schedule flying 14 hours in Y. I've done enough TATLs to know the benefit of J travel (with a few previous Y's for reference), and what schedule is, and is not, doable. Thanks to FT, you'll discover plenty of ways to efficiently insure you never have to travel outside of a premium cabin, if you so choose.
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Dec 20, 2009, 8:02 am
#78
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I'm posting the article here, because there's a fair amount of copy about UA / GS. My feelings won't be bruised if Mods decide it belongs in Newsstand. 
Frequent Flier VIP: Meet the Guy Who Never Waits at the Airport
[I]Airport lines are a thing of the past for Tom Stuker. So are middle seats, waiting on hold when calling customer service and missed connections.
Frequent Flier VIP: Meet the Guy Who Never Waits at the Airport
[I]Airport lines are a thing of the past for Tom Stuker. So are middle seats, waiting on hold when calling customer service and missed connections.
- Mentioned how much he liked Dearborn Call Center "They (Dearborn) treat you like gold".
- Graham Atkinson: "Great, great guy"
- He thinks they treat "everybody" really good
Dec 20, 2009, 8:41 am
#79
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That $132K is only for the capital cost of the aircraft; you still have hourly charges for fuel and crew that run about $2500/hr for the Ultra (which only has a range of about 1500 miles); and the hourly for a Gulfstream IV is closer to $6000/hour.
Dec 20, 2009, 10:36 am
#80
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Tom.. saw you this morning on foxandfriends ^ Kudos to you on getting in there before the storm hits. Hopefully you'll be able to make it out of there 
Loved the tie and cuff-links ^ I noticed you kept an eye on the GS card once the guy was handing it back Overall a great segment. Unfortunately these things are boiled down to just sound bites but I thought it went well ^ I loved the remark about on AA you don't even have to fly to make a million miles ..
Loved the tie and cuff-links ^ I noticed you kept an eye on the GS card once the guy was handing it back
Overall a great segment. Unfortunately these things are boiled down to just sound bites but I thought it went well ^ I loved the remark about on AA you don't even have to fly to make a million miles ..
Dec 20, 2009, 10:55 am
#81
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For example, the all-inclusive price for 25 hours flown only in domestic transportation within the continental U.S. using a Citation V Ultra would be $136,989.41 plus applicable per passenger US-imposed taxes and fees.
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For the month of November 2009, the hourly fuel variable for the Citation V Ultra was $752.58. Please check the website monthly for the most current fuel variable.
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For the month of November 2009, the hourly fuel variable for the Citation V Ultra was $752.58. Please check the website monthly for the most current fuel variable.
Dec 20, 2009, 11:03 am
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Dec 20, 2009, 11:19 am
#83
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UA hijacking the movie from AA?
Fun intereview, and was I the only person with the feeling that UA PR folk are doing a pretty good job of trying to hijack the movie's message and PR benefits from AA? ^
UA1FLYER even got into the fray directly when he pointed out that on United, you actually have to FLY to get to where he is, not just use a credit card. Plus mention by the host that the movie was somewhat based upon UA1FLYER's experiences.
Hmm. OK. So we're so crazy here that we (and UA1FLYER) see that (having to actually fly to get top benefits) as an advantage?
Perhaps we can't see the forest for the trees!
Fun interview, but I did keep wondering, is the FT reference coming up next? Will that question lead into it? Maybe next time!
UA1FLYER even got into the fray directly when he pointed out that on United, you actually have to FLY to get to where he is, not just use a credit card. Plus mention by the host that the movie was somewhat based upon UA1FLYER's experiences.
Hmm. OK. So we're so crazy here that we (and UA1FLYER) see that (having to actually fly to get top benefits) as an advantage?
Perhaps we can't see the forest for the trees!
Fun interview, but I did keep wondering, is the FT reference coming up next? Will that question lead into it? Maybe next time!
Dec 20, 2009, 11:33 am
#84
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He has to be a very happy man at the moment.
Dec 20, 2009, 11:34 am
#85
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Tom.. saw you this morning on foxandfriends ^ Kudos to you on getting in there before the storm hits. Hopefully you'll be able to make it out of there
Loved the tie and cuff-links ^ I noticed you kept an eye on the GS card once the guy was handing it back Overall a great segment. Unfortunately these things are boiled down to just sound bites but I thought it went well ^ I loved the remark about on AA you don't even have to fly to make a million miles ..
Loved the tie and cuff-links ^ I noticed you kept an eye on the GS card once the guy was handing it back
Overall a great segment. Unfortunately these things are boiled down to just sound bites but I thought it went well ^ I loved the remark about on AA you don't even have to fly to make a million miles .. http://www.foxnews.com/search-result...Frequent+Flyer
Dec 20, 2009, 11:41 am
#86
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Fun intereview, and was I the only person with the feeling that UA PR folk are doing a pretty good job of trying to hijack the movie's message and PR benefits from AA? ^
UA1FLYER even got into the fray directly when he pointed out that on United, you actually have to FLY to get to where he is, not just use a credit card. Plus mention by the host that the movie was somewhat based upon UA1FLYER's experiences.
UA1FLYER even got into the fray directly when he pointed out that on United, you actually have to FLY to get to where he is, not just use a credit card. Plus mention by the host that the movie was somewhat based upon UA1FLYER's experiences.
More power to UA's PR folks for taking from AA what AA took from Frontier.
Dec 20, 2009, 11:45 am
#87
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Somebody has to be top dog and congrats Tom you are. To be the highest, best etc at anything should be a cool feeling. I wish you and your family a very merry Christmas. God bless and safe travels.
Dec 20, 2009, 12:06 pm
#88
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He comes across as a pretty nice guy too. That counts for something in my book.
Dec 20, 2009, 12:11 pm
#89
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To be honest, I thought the character was based on you -- hard to believe there's at least one person out there who does twice as many miles each year!