Pre-clear in Dublin airport if travelling to US via Gatwick?
Jul 19, 2009, 8:49 am
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Pre-clear in Dublin airport if travelling to US via Gatwick?
Hi, I will travel to Orlando late August however we are flying BA so it's DUBLIN - Gatwick - Orlando MCO.
Does anyone know if the pre-clearance will take place in Dublin itself or Gatwick? I have been told recently that it's taking very long these days in the queue in Dublin Airport - so if they do not preclear us in Dublin we may not have enough time for queuing at Gatwick, as it's a connecting flight within 1 hour.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Does anyone know if the pre-clearance will take place in Dublin itself or Gatwick? I have been told recently that it's taking very long these days in the queue in Dublin Airport - so if they do not preclear us in Dublin we may not have enough time for queuing at Gatwick, as it's a connecting flight within 1 hour.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Jul 19, 2009, 9:57 am
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As above. You will go through ordinary US immigration control on arrival in the USA.
In theory, there will be no passport control on leaving Dublin, but in practice (these days) there might be. Your arrival at Gatwick will be more or less like a domestic UK arrival, with no passport control for the UK (because of the Common Travel Area arrangements).
In theory, there will be no passport control on leaving Dublin, but in practice (these days) there might be. Your arrival at Gatwick will be more or less like a domestic UK arrival, with no passport control for the UK (because of the Common Travel Area arrangements).
Jul 22, 2009, 11:27 am
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As above. You will go through ordinary US immigration control on arrival in the USA.
In theory, there will be no passport control on leaving Dublin, but in practice (these days) there might be. Your arrival at Gatwick will be more or less like a domestic UK arrival, with no passport control for the UK (because of the Common Travel Area arrangements).
In theory, there will be no passport control on leaving Dublin, but in practice (these days) there might be. Your arrival at Gatwick will be more or less like a domestic UK arrival, with no passport control for the UK (because of the Common Travel Area arrangements).
Does it also mean we do not need to fill in the ESTA?
I was referring to this which mentions ESTA pre-clear for UK citizens...nothing on Irish citizens passing through Gatwick
http://www.estauk.com/?gclid=COHnpMvq6ZsCFd4B4wodqnUq6w
Thanks again
Jul 22, 2009, 11:45 am
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Many thanks both of you!
Does it also mean we do not need to fill in the ESTA?
I was referring to this which mentions ESTA pre-clear for UK citizens...nothing on Irish citizens passing through Gatwick
http://www.estauk.com/?gclid=COHnpMvq6ZsCFd4B4wodqnUq6w
Does it also mean we do not need to fill in the ESTA?
I was referring to this which mentions ESTA pre-clear for UK citizens...nothing on Irish citizens passing through Gatwick
http://www.estauk.com/?gclid=COHnpMvq6ZsCFd4B4wodqnUq6w
Website estauk.com is operated by Visa Express Co.,Ltd.
This website is a specialized application agency for ESTA(Electronic System Travel Authorization) that became mandatory for foreigners who enter America through Visa Waiver Program, executed from January 12, 2009. It checks clients' information, register them in ESTA system, and deliver its result to clients again.
It is a private website opened for the convenience of ESTA applicants, and designed to apply each client's travel permit and help them to visit America under the Visa Waiver Program. It never guarantees client's travel permit.
And Though ESTA permission is achieved, additional arrival inspection will be conducted by entry examiner.
Please fully understand these points and use this website.
(This "www.estauk.com" is a web agent for ESTA. This website has no connection with the United States Government.)
This website is a specialized application agency for ESTA(Electronic System Travel Authorization) that became mandatory for foreigners who enter America through Visa Waiver Program, executed from January 12, 2009. It checks clients' information, register them in ESTA system, and deliver its result to clients again.
It is a private website opened for the convenience of ESTA applicants, and designed to apply each client's travel permit and help them to visit America under the Visa Waiver Program. It never guarantees client's travel permit.
And Though ESTA permission is achieved, additional arrival inspection will be conducted by entry examiner.
Please fully understand these points and use this website.
(This "www.estauk.com" is a web agent for ESTA. This website has no connection with the United States Government.)
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/id_visa/esta/
https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/esta.h...3-2860347DD4FF
Is there a fee to register under ESTA?
14 April 2009 by: visaservices
esta1The U.S. government does not charge a fee for registering under the Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA). There is only one official ESTA website and that is https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov. Anyone charging a fee for this service is NOT operating on behalf of the U.S. government.
14 April 2009 by: visaservices
esta1The U.S. government does not charge a fee for registering under the Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA). There is only one official ESTA website and that is https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov. Anyone charging a fee for this service is NOT operating on behalf of the U.S. government.
Jul 22, 2009, 11:50 am
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DON'T USE THAT WEBSITE!! It wants you to pay for something you can do without payment. The US DHS makes no charge.
Try this one instead: http://www.usembassy.org.uk/dhs/esta_info.html
AFAIK the ESTA programme is for visitors using the Visa Waiver system and should at some indeterminate date in the future replace it. I'm pretty sure that will apply to Irish citizens.
Try this one instead: http://www.usembassy.org.uk/dhs/esta_info.html
AFAIK the ESTA programme is for visitors using the Visa Waiver system and should at some indeterminate date in the future replace it. I'm pretty sure that will apply to Irish citizens.
Jul 23, 2009, 12:52 am
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DON'T USE THAT WEBSITE!! It wants you to pay for something you can do without payment. The US DHS makes no charge.
Try this one instead: http://www.usembassy.org.uk/dhs/esta_info.html
AFAIK the ESTA programme is for visitors using the Visa Waiver system and should at some indeterminate date in the future replace it. I'm pretty sure that will apply to Irish citizens.
Try this one instead: http://www.usembassy.org.uk/dhs/esta_info.html
AFAIK the ESTA programme is for visitors using the Visa Waiver system and should at some indeterminate date in the future replace it. I'm pretty sure that will apply to Irish citizens.
[The first-mentioned website is not official and seems to charge for a service that is free. That doesn't mean that they don't provide what they say they do, but the bona fides of the website must be called into question by the very first sentence: "From the January 12, 2009, all English travelers who want to go to the United States of America...". Italics mine: "Englishness" is not relevant in this context, since the citizenship in question is British, not English, and I don't think a completely reputable resource discussing visa matters would use "English" in that way. ]
Jul 23, 2009, 5:16 am
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The Embassy of Ireland website in London confirms that Irish Passport holders who do not hold a US Visa are required to pre-register with ESTA before travelling to the United States.
They have a link as follows:
"Visa Waiver travellers should register through the Department of Homeland Security website at the following address: https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov. "
The relevant page is at:
http://www.embassyofireland.co.uk/ho....aspx?id=33723
They have a link as follows:
"Visa Waiver travellers should register through the Department of Homeland Security website at the following address: https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov. "
The relevant page is at:
http://www.embassyofireland.co.uk/ho....aspx?id=33723