ajax how sure are you from a 1-10? :p

Isn't this thread getting SO confusing, with two entirely separate conversations going on at the same time??

One thing you haven't told us - and which could make a difference - is what you were doing in the UK in those four months. Immigration rules aren't just about length of stay, they are also about what you are doing. If you were working in the UK you were breaking the law and you could have problems being readmitted. If you were living off your savings and having a good time you weren't breaking any laws.

Whatever you do don't lie to Immigration about the length of your last stay. They may not ask, but if they do you have to tell the truth... and if you tell them you stayed four months they will probably ask why. Just be prepared for that question, and don't let it throw you

Exactly ILR is essentially that you are coming to the UK to work. RoA is only applicable to children born in Commonwealth countries between 1963?? and 1983, (after which time it was possible for women to pass citizenship) to mothers who were born in the UK

Sorry no I meant registering for naturalisation.:o

I don't believe that is correct but I will double check. citizenship by descent does not entitle your children to citizenship (unless born in the UK of course:))

Aviatrix------ I did not come to work, I know thats VERY illegal.
I orginally came for two weeks, decided to stay a wee bit longer, booked a tix home for June 2nd ( have proof of this) but right before I left I met a boy....pretty much the rest is history. Thought I was love etc etc and extended my stay until Aug....can prove through bank docs I was using savings. I just want to see my friends....I'm no longer with the guy anyhow.

Sure - but that's the beauty of FT!

Ah. You could be right. The permutations of British citizenship law are many. I know that as a naturalised citizen living in the UK, I could pass it along to my children. I also know that as a citizen of the US who has lived five years in the country (and at least two older than the age of 14? 16? 18? I forget the exact age) I could pass US citizenship along to my children.

But you're right - citizenship by descent is so bloody confusing, what with laws changing in 1983 and such like.

it is confusing...I have no clue what half this thread is talking about!

I just wanted to try to get my situation resolved :p

Simply put, it's about different types of permanent residence in the UK - ILR (Indefinite Leave to Remain), ROA (Right of Abode). Sort of very distantly related to your question but not really the same topic at all. But I guess this is very much like real life (sitting round the dinner table, standing around at a party)... you are having a conversation, then some people go off on a tangent, then suddenly you have two conversations.

Aviatrix

I get you. I responded to your last thing.

Tell me about it. I'm stuck being interrogated by immigration about how I got my RoA because I was born in 1981, my sister born after 1983 sails right by with her UK passport:mad:

londonbound86 sorry for hijacking your thread. I think your questions were answered though by Aviatrix ignore mine and ajax's tangential posts :).

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APIS records are often sent to two differnt places by the airline DCS: destination country where APIS is an arrivals manifest; origin country where APIS is a departure manifest. This happens in the US, Canada, Bermuda, many other countries, and I believe in the UK as well. The outbound APIS becomes the electronic departure record recorded within the immigrations systems of the country where the flight is departing from. In the UK, that agency is now (since six months ago when Customs was annexed) known as UKBA (UK Border Agency).
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eh...? So that means yes. I'm so confused by my own thread now! :(

Yes. In my opinion the system is not infallible, but there is a very good chance that UKBA will be able to know how long you stayed, especially if you arrive and depart by air.
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As far as I am aware departure records are NOT routinely passed to Immigration (or UKBA, or whatever they're called this week)... but that doesn't mean that UKBA can't access departure records if they want to - for example, if they're looking for someone. Which is why I said in an earlier post that one must not lie about things like the length of one's last visit - they may or may not have departure information, but if they do and you have lied then you are really are in trouble.

If you have nothing to hide then the fact that you stayed four months shouldn't matter - and you shouldn't worry about whether or not UKBA know your last departure date. Be prepared for some extra questions if they know, or if they ask... if they do ask you questions stay calm, don't get flustered, don't get irritated; just answer their questions.