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Old May 26, 2022, 1:59 am
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA
Pretty sure Bond Street was being worked on when I worked in London in 2013! How could it take so long?
There is more detail published online, but I understand that a significant contributory factor that delayed Bond Street was that it was an entry/exit point to/from the tunnel for construction materials in the central section, and that much of the delay stems from complications arising from the use of the Bond Street shaft to get kit in and out.
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Old May 26, 2022, 6:43 am
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I travelled the whole route and visited all new entrances to every station.

I think people are kind of expecting it to be like the tube as it's branded like a tube line. But it was designed exactly to speed up journeys across central London.

It's like Thameslink but that is much slower and feels different because the Thameslink core stations are close together, and lots of branches converge at the necks plus needing to change from overhead wires to third rail.
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The long dwell times may be a case of being overprepared. If they were too short the timetable would be thrown off as delays accumulated. Don't know if they were expecting it to be busier thus requiring longer dwell times, but I was surprised at how uncrowded it felt, everyone who wanted to sit was able to the entire day including during the rush hours.
I don't know if it's because the stations and trains are much bigger and/or capacity of transport across London has suddenly doubled(?) and hasn't attracted newer commuters yet / maybe commuting is still reduced from covid effects.
On the central section dwell times are a minimum 30 seconds for Bond St, Custom House, Farringdon, Whitechapel and Woolwich. For the other stations it’s a 1 minute minimum.

That’s reflective of how busy they expect the stations to be. There could be some adjustments but that has an impact on the timetable and operation of the line and especially the central section. Outside of that trains also need to fit in with the existing network rail timetables.

Crossrail will increased rail capacity by approx 10% when it’s fully running with 24 trains an hour on the central section.

The line has only been running a couple of days so it’s impossible to tell yet if it has increased the number of new commuters. But new commuters are only part of the rational for the line - it was to help reduce overcrowding on the central line.
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Old May 28, 2022, 12:38 pm
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA
Pretty sure Bond Street was being worked on when I worked in London in 2013! How could it take so long?
The project that became Crossrail has origins in the 1943 County of London Plan and 1944 Greater London Plan by Patrick Abercrombie. These led to a specialist investigation by the Railway (London Plan) Committee, appointed in 1944 and reporting in 1946 and 1948.

So working on a station since 2013 is par for the course
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Old Jul 13, 2022, 5:52 pm
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Any updates on Bond Street? Until it opens, the new line is kind of useless to me. I guess I will always have the Jubilee LOL
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Old Jul 13, 2022, 11:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Boraxo
Any updates on Bond Street? Until it opens, the new line is kind of useless to me. I guess I will always have the Jubilee LOL
Not that I have noticed yet. It was expected to be several months late, but TfL were very clear that they were not going to suggest any dates.
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Old Jul 13, 2022, 11:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Boraxo
Any updates on Bond Street? Until it opens, the new line is kind of useless to me. I guess I will always have the Jubilee LOL
Last month, TFL Andy Byford said he is looking to open Bond Street at the same time as trains start running through from the other branches, which is still only vaguely said to be Autumn.

“Bond Street and the next phase of the Elizabeth line will be delivered in the autumn of this year.

“By next phase I mean being able to bring trains in from the east, from Shenfield, through to Paddington without having to change at Liverpool Street and from the west, from Heathrow and Reading through the tunnel to Abbey Wood without having to change at Paddington.

“That gets us about 90% of the benefit. That will also happen this autumn. I’m aiming to make that concurrent with Bond Street.”
That's the most recent news I have seen on it.
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Old Jul 14, 2022, 5:39 am
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They are testing through running from Paddington to Ilford on several past and upcoming Sundays.
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Originally Posted by GregWTravels
Last month, TFL Andy Byford said he is looking to open Bond Street at the same time as trains start running through from the other branches, which is still only vaguely said to be Autumn.
It seems that TfL are being very coy about confirming anything, Byford seems to be on record that dates for connecting trains and Bond Street may not be aligned.

The public is yet to see the 'Horizon Line' installation at Bond Street as construction delays at that station means it still is not open yet. TfL commissioner Andy Byford, who was also present at the committee meeting, confirmed that the station will still open in Autumn although not necessarily on the same date that train services from Heathrow, Reading and Shenfield start running into the new, central section.
Whatever it is there will probably be a couple of weeks notice.
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Old Jul 20, 2022, 1:28 pm
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Crossrail have released a shortish video today on their ongoing completion of Bond Street. Spoiler - no dates other than 'before the end of the year' are mentioned

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Originally Posted by GregWTravels
Last month, TFL Andy Byford said he is looking to open Bond Street at the same time as trains start running through from the other branches, which is still only vaguely said to be Autumn.



That's the most recent news I have seen on it.
Elizabeth Line trains will run from Reading/Heathrow to Abbey Wood with effect from 6 November TFL have announced today. Bond Street will be open by that time so not sure if it’s opening much before or at the same time as through trains will operate. This then leaves the Liverpool to Shenfield branch operating as a stand-alone until Shenfield also has through trains to Heathrow expected to be coming early 2023.
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Old Aug 23, 2022, 3:25 am
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The Shenfield branch will start to run through to Paddington from the 6th November as well so passengers from the east will be able to switch to LHR trains anywhere on the central section
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More detail here on the November 6th changes if anyone is interested.
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Old Sep 3, 2022, 12:37 am
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Early start time and fare changes

Two changes coming soon

from Monday 5th September service will start from 5.30 rather than 6.30

https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles...-monday-57172/


From Sunday 4th September all TFL fares between LHR Zone One and vice versa will be charged at the peak rate rather than split depending on the time of travel. This is an increase of Ł2 for a single trip. However daily and weekly fare capping is still in place so not all trips will cost more.

https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles...crapped-57193/
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Old Sep 28, 2022, 7:30 am
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Good news: Bond Street station will open on Monday 24th October (per IanVisits)

The delayed opening of the Elizabeth line platforms at Bond Street tube station has been confirmed by Transport for London (TfL), and they will open on Monday 24th October.
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Old Oct 19, 2022, 4:48 am
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Through Elizabeth LIne timetables from 6 November

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/elizabeth-l...ine-timetables
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