Oct 15, 2020, 6:45 pm
Local lockdowns in the UK
Dec 22, 2021, 4:12 am
#8416
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Dec 22, 2021, 4:26 am
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Just an FYI on that point. I understand PCR is not necessarily a good tool to assess safety to return to work since you can remain PCR positive for some (possibly considerable) time after recovery from infection.
Dec 22, 2021, 4:33 am
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It's rare. Most people (90% or so) will show negative a week after a postive, and it's something like 97% at 10 days. But the minor detail of vaccines that often gets unreported is that those vaccinated who do get infected tend to be back on their feet within a few days and while they could still infect someone, the risk is much reduced with each passing day.
Dec 22, 2021, 4:48 am
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The UKHSA report will be online here in a few hours, I'm still embargoed until then. The summary you provided isn't way off beam, this was circulated to ministers late yesterday evening (also on embargoed status.....) except that London is still seeing big rises and the NHS in London has a lot of people self isolating. Some Pfizer and Moderna deliveries in London can't be made today because we are short of drivers, we have a backlog in blood analysis and 200 similar minor things which are all adding up. So it does fulfill the requirement of a Major Incident with Gold oversight. So lots of infections, not serious, death rate shouldn't rise, but the NHS is on a knife edge in certain spots - but to be fair, not nationally at this point.
The report hugely reiterates the importance of Boosters, by the time you work through the risks and benefits of the various competing factors.
https://www.gov.uk/search/all?organi...ecurity-agency
(I think it's a 12 o clock release, not totally certain).
The report hugely reiterates the importance of Boosters, by the time you work through the risks and benefits of the various competing factors.
https://www.gov.uk/search/all?organi...ecurity-agency
(I think it's a 12 o clock release, not totally certain).
Daily hospitalisations are up from around 100 per day to around 230-240 per day, so an increase but fairly steady over the last 2/3 weeks.
Total patients in hospital up from around 1000-1100 to about 1900 over the same timespan, again a steady increase over the period.
Patients in ICU more or less flat and hovering around the 180-210 range for a few months now.
Dec 22, 2021, 5:27 am
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A friend who is classed as vulnerable, due to the immune suppressant drugs he takes, has received a notification from the NHS that he is pre approved for one of the bleeding edge anti virals. He’s not sure which one (that’s a detail - he doesn’t do those) but says that in the event of a positive diagnosis he may be invited to hospital and put on “one of those drip things”.
If they can target those most likely to fall seriously ill and provide effective treatment then I think we might be staring at the end game of this.
If they can target those most likely to fall seriously ill and provide effective treatment then I think we might be staring at the end game of this.
Dec 22, 2021, 5:52 am
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And it's my turn! I've just had the two C-T lines on a LFT (done twice just to be sure). I was at the in-laws for Xmas and this might be the last one for a while given what happened next. I apologised for having endangered them, did my bags, my wife tested negative, and I booked an AirBnb nearby until the 26th just to be on the safe side. My father-in-law, who is an anti-vaxxer, went mental. He was adamant I should stay in, have a Christmas meal tomorrow with the entire extended family (one son with a liver condition, him who's 60+ and overweight, the mother-in-law, my wife, her sister, husband and 3 kids).
I'm now obviously self isolating in the AirBnB, with very little symptoms and, frankly, mildly relieved not to be there. How moronic can people be?
I'm now obviously self isolating in the AirBnB, with very little symptoms and, frankly, mildly relieved not to be there. How moronic can people be?
(just joking - hope it's mild and you get better soon.)
Dec 22, 2021, 6:01 am
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And it's my turn! I've just had the two C-T lines on a LFT (done twice just to be sure). I was at the in-laws for Xmas and this might be the last one for a while given what happened next. I apologised for having endangered them, did my bags, my wife tested negative, and I booked an AirBnb nearby until the 26th just to be on the safe side. My father-in-law, who is an anti-vaxxer, went mental. He was adamant I should stay in, have a Christmas meal tomorrow with the entire extended family (one son with a liver condition, him who's 60+ and overweight, the mother-in-law, my wife, her sister, husband and 3 kids).
I'm now obviously self isolating in the AirBnB, with very little symptoms and, frankly, mildly relieved not to be there. How moronic can people be?
I'm now obviously self isolating in the AirBnB, with very little symptoms and, frankly, mildly relieved not to be there. How moronic can people be?
What a total plonker though. There's also the possibility that he now has it and may pass it on himself - you should maybe find a way of making it known to at least the vulnerables that you were with him when testing positive, so that they can make an informed decision.
Dec 22, 2021, 6:02 am
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apologies for not posting for a few days, table up to yesterdays figures
Dec 22, 2021, 6:25 am
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And it's my turn! I've just had the two C-T lines on a LFT (done twice just to be sure). I was at the in-laws for Xmas and this might be the last one for a while given what happened next. I apologised for having endangered them, did my bags, my wife tested negative, and I booked an AirBnb nearby until the 26th just to be on the safe side. My father-in-law, who is an anti-vaxxer, went mental. He was adamant I should stay in, have a Christmas meal tomorrow with the entire extended family (one son with a liver condition, him who's 60+ and overweight, the mother-in-law, my wife, her sister, husband and 3 kids).
I'm now obviously self isolating in the AirBnB, with very little symptoms and, frankly, mildly relieved not to be there. How moronic can people be?
I'm now obviously self isolating in the AirBnB, with very little symptoms and, frankly, mildly relieved not to be there. How moronic can people be?
Dec 22, 2021, 6:40 am
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Hope you recover soon and don't feel the hardship of missing out on his company too much.
What a total plonker though. There's also the possibility that he now has it and may pass it on himself - you should maybe find a way of making it known to at least the vulnerables that you were with him when testing positive, so that they can make an informed decision.
What a total plonker though. There's also the possibility that he now has it and may pass it on himself - you should maybe find a way of making it known to at least the vulnerables that you were with him when testing positive, so that they can make an informed decision.
Thanks! However I wouldn't know how to say "anti-viral pills" in Hungarian to save my bacon. I've always known this country is Europe's Lipscomb County, TX, but I'm also finding out that it's next to impossible to find some tests. I travelled with some I brought from the UK, plus I grabbed one for 5 euros at a supermarket in Italy, but that's it.
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Dec 22, 2021, 7:29 am
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Darkest days could be behind us as data hint that omicron cases may have peaked
Tuesday was the Winter Solstice, our darkest day and longest night before the sun begins its slow ascent higher into the sky again.
So it seems fitting that the latest coronavirus data is also starting to show a glimmer of light.
After weeks of relentless growth, the first signs of a slowdown have begun, with some experts speculating that England may even have peaked.
Although admissions are still rising, cases in Britain have been largely unchanged for about six days, with 90,629 reported on Tuesday, a fall of 1,115 from the previous day.
Case rates are also reassuringly low in areas with high vaccination, suggesting that vaccines and boosters are holding up well against omicron. It is still too early to be sure, but here is what the latest data is telling us.
Hospital-case ratio
The number of people ending up in hospital after testing positive for Covid has fallen to one of the lowest points in the entire pandemic, with just 1.95 per cent being admitted.
As before, it's not a paywall, just disable javascript for the telegraph.co.uk domain.
Tuesday was the Winter Solstice, our darkest day and longest night before the sun begins its slow ascent higher into the sky again.
So it seems fitting that the latest coronavirus data is also starting to show a glimmer of light.
After weeks of relentless growth, the first signs of a slowdown have begun, with some experts speculating that England may even have peaked.
Although admissions are still rising, cases in Britain have been largely unchanged for about six days, with 90,629 reported on Tuesday, a fall of 1,115 from the previous day.
Case rates are also reassuringly low in areas with high vaccination, suggesting that vaccines and boosters are holding up well against omicron. It is still too early to be sure, but here is what the latest data is telling us.
Hospital-case ratio
The number of people ending up in hospital after testing positive for Covid has fallen to one of the lowest points in the entire pandemic, with just 1.95 per cent being admitted.
As before, it's not a paywall, just disable javascript for the telegraph.co.uk domain.
Dec 22, 2021, 9:05 am
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The 7-day case rate is up by almost 60% on a week ago.
Dec 22, 2021, 9:10 am
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Daily data:
Cases 106,122 (78,610 last Wednesday)
Deaths 140 (165)
Patients admitted 813 (778 on the 11th)
Patients in hospital 8,008 (7,693 on the 14th)
Patients in ventilation beds 849 (896 on the 14th)
People vaccinated up to and including 21 December 2021:
First dose: 51,577,782
Second dose: 47,156,899
Booster: 30,844,888
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 58.9% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 2.7%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 111.9 today. After some delay the number of cases has pushed through the 100k mark. It was a good day for boosters yesterday, though at 968,665 we have still not quite made the million. The last time we had fewer patients in ventilation beds was on the 18th October.
Cases 106,122 (78,610 last Wednesday)
Deaths 140 (165)
Patients admitted 813 (778 on the 11th)
Patients in hospital 8,008 (7,693 on the 14th)
Patients in ventilation beds 849 (896 on the 14th)
People vaccinated up to and including 21 December 2021:
First dose: 51,577,782
Second dose: 47,156,899
Booster: 30,844,888
The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 58.9% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 2.7%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 111.9 today. After some delay the number of cases has pushed through the 100k mark. It was a good day for boosters yesterday, though at 968,665 we have still not quite made the million. The last time we had fewer patients in ventilation beds was on the 18th October.
Dec 22, 2021, 9:36 am
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It seems that the major issue we are having in the UK is higher hospitalisations in London primarily, which has fairly low vaccination levels. I don't know what the solution is, because COVID-passports don't seem to work if you look at Germany and or France, but the unvaxxed are causing this clearly.
I think it is a conversation this nation needs to have. It's becoming increasingly frustrating and annoying, because our freedoms and the health/economic wellbeing of the nation is being harmed significantly thanks to the thousands who refuse to get jabbed.
I think it is a conversation this nation needs to have. It's becoming increasingly frustrating and annoying, because our freedoms and the health/economic wellbeing of the nation is being harmed significantly thanks to the thousands who refuse to get jabbed.
Dec 22, 2021, 9:38 am
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I mean - this is just pathetic for where I live......
