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Old Nov 27, 2020, 3:06 am
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Originally Posted by Dan1113
Of course keep in mind nobody from the rest of the UK is allowed into Wales or Scotland.
That isn't strictly true. From the Wales .gov website:
"People who live outside Wales can still travel through Wales if they have a reasonable excuse to do so."
" travelling to move home, or other related activity, is a reasonable excuse to enter Wales."
"Travelling in and out of Wales is not allowed unless you have a reasonable excuse. Where necessary travelling to a workplace in Wales is a reasonable excuse to enter Wales under the rules."
"People travelling to Wales from elsewhere in the UK or from abroad must have a reasonable excuse to enter and remain in Wales and must follow all relevant regulations in force in Wales, as explained in this guidance."
"However, there are some circumstances in which you may have a reasonable excuse to visit people outside Wales – for example if you have caring responsibilities, you have entered an extended household with them, or you have compassionate grounds for going to see them."
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Old Nov 27, 2020, 3:11 am
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I think it is true to say legally free movement has been halted from the rest of the UK in to Wales or Scotland, and from Wales or Scotland in to the rest of the UK. There are some narrow exceptions. All covered in the posts linked to in the wiki.
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Old Nov 27, 2020, 9:36 am
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Advice Needed Desperately!

Dear UK Flyertalkers,

I’m not sure if it’s appropriate to post in this chain, or to create a new one - mods please move this where you feel it belongs!

My son has applied to boarding schools in the UK, and remarkably, he has been accepted. But we have to figure out how to visit these schools sometime soon to see if one of them is the right fit - of course it couldn’t be a worse time to visit the UK coming from Los Angeles, California!

The soonest we can come is right after the New Year. But will it be a 14 day quarantine or a 7 day quarantine by then? And reading all your posts here, it doesn’t sound as if one is allowed to drive from place to place at this point anyway? We need to visit schools in Herts, Surrey and Worcestershire.

How can I plan something like this? Is it even possible? Any advice would be so greatly appreciated!
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Old Nov 27, 2020, 9:43 am
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I expect it would still be 14 days self isolation from the US, although there is an opportunity to reduced this to 5 days if you take a PCR test on day 5 and get a negative result - there is some commentary on this on the main thread from post 4773 onwards https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coro...ivals-319.html

Whilst in self isolation there are some narrow exemptions which do allow you to leave from your place self isolation, but I can't see that travelling to look at schools would fit any of them, so any school visits would have to be done once you have finished self isolation. However, once you have finished self isolation, I don't see any issue with you driving to look at schools in that area - albeit I am assuming the rules coming in to effect from 3 December are going to be the ones in force in January.
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One week after coming out of the previous lockdown, Northern Ireland entered a two-week circuit breaker from 27 November until 11 December.
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  • Closure of all retail except essential retail that was permitted to stay open in the Spring;
  • Off licences will remain open, with an 8pm closing;
  • Closure of close contact services, and driving instruction (not motorcycles), except close contact for Film and TV production; those ancillary to medical, health and social care services; and elite-sports therapeutic services - i.e. – as 13 October- 19 November;
  • Closure of all hospitality (except for accommodation for essential travel). Takeaway and delivery, and food and drink in motorway services, airports and harbour terminals remain open;
  • Closure of all leisure and entertainment (to include all soft play areas, gyms, swimming pools etc);
  • Sporting events only permitted for elite sports. Individual/household outdoor exercise and school PE to continue;
  • Elite sports events behind closed doors without spectators;
  • No household gatherings of more than one household, other than current arrangements for linked households (bubbles), with current exceptions for caring, maintenance, house moves, etc.;
  • Closure of places of worship, except for weddings, civil partnerships and funerals. Remain with 25 max for weddings and funerals;
  • Stay at home, work from home if at all possible, otherwise only leave for essential purposes such as education, healthcare needs, to care for others or outdoor exercise
  • Schools and childcare to remain open;
  • Universities / FE to provide learning at distance except where it is essential to provide it face to face;
  • Public parks and outdoor play areas remain open;
  • Stay at home in guidance, with liaison with PSNI on policing and police visibility
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/b...eland-19348413

Statutory Rules of Northern Ireland 2020 No.287
PUBLIC HEALTH

The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (No. 2) (Amendment No. 17) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2020
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Originally Posted by KARFA
I think it is true to say legally free movement has been halted from the rest of the UK in to Wales or Scotland, and from Wales or Scotland in to the rest of the UK. There are some narrow exceptions. All covered in the posts linked to in the wiki.
And here I was worrying about free movement in EU countries
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Old Nov 30, 2020, 9:05 am
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The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (All Tiers) (England) Regulations 2020
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1374/contents

- In force from 2 December
- No legal restrictions on movement within, or in/out of any areas, but there is guidance on this
- Closure of hotels/B&Bs in Tier 3 areas for holidays, but may remain open to cater for exceptions such as those needing accommodation for work etc.

Tier 1 areas
Any areas not listed as Tier 2 or Tier 3

Tier 2 areas
The areas of the following are within the Tier 2 area—

North West:
Cheshire East Council
Cheshire West and Chester Council
Cumbria County Council
Halton Borough Council
Knowsley Metropolitan Borough Council
Liverpool City Council
Sefton Borough Council
St. Helens Borough Council
Warrington Borough Council
Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

Yorkshire and The Humber:
City of York Council
North Yorkshire County Council

East Midlands:
Northamptonshire County Council
Rutland County Council

West Midlands:
Herefordshire Council
Shropshire Council
Telford and Wrekin Borough Council
Worcestershire County Council

East of England:
Bedford Borough Council
Cambridgeshire County Council
Central Bedfordshire Council
Luton Borough Council
Milton Keynes Borough Council
Norfolk County Council
Peterborough City Council
Suffolk County Council
Essex County Council From 16 December some of the sub areas in these four counties remain in Tier 2, some sub areas move to Tier 3 (SI 2020/1533)
Hertfordshire County Council
Southend-on-Sea Borough Council
Thurrock Borough Council

South East:
Bracknell Forest Council
Brighton and Hove City Council
Buckinghamshire Council
East Sussex County Council
Hampshire County Council
Oxfordshire County Council
Portsmouth City Council
Reading Borough Council
Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead
Southampton City Council
Surrey County Council
West Berkshire Council
West Sussex County Council
Wokingham Borough Council

London: All moved to Tier 3 from 16 December (SI 2020/1533)
City of Westminster
London Borough of Barking and Dagenham
London Borough of Barnet
London Borough of Bexley
London Borough of Brent
London Borough of Bromley
London Borough of Camden
London Borough of Croydon
London Borough of Ealing
London Borough of Enfield
London Borough of Hackney
London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham
London Borough of Haringey
London Borough of Harrow
London Borough of Havering
London Borough of Hillingdon
London Borough of Hounslow
London Borough of Islington
London Borough of Lambeth
London Borough of Lewisham
London Borough of Merton
London Borough of Newham
London Borough of Redbridge
London Borough of Richmond upon Thames
London Borough of Southwark
London Borough of Sutton
London Borough of Tower Hamlets
London Borough of Waltham Forest Council
London Borough of Wandsworth Council
Royal Borough of Greenwich
Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea
Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames
The Common Council, in respect of the City of London
The Sub-Treasurer, in respect of the Inner Temple and the Under Treasurer, in respect of the
Middle Temple


South West:
Bath and North East Somerset Council
Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole Council
Devon County Council
Dorset Council
Gloucestershire County Council
Plymouth City Council
Somerset County Council
Swindon Borough Council
Torbay Council
Wiltshire Council

Areas in Essex, Hertfordshire, Southend, and Thurrock remaining in Tier 2 from 16 December (SI 2020/1533)

Colchester Borough Council
Dacorum Borough Council
East Hertfordshire District Council
North Hertfordshire District Council
Stevenage Borough Council
St Albans City and District Council
Tendring District Council
Uttlesford District Council
Welwyn Hatfield Borough Council

Tier 3 areas
The areas of the following are within the Tier 3 area—

North West:
Blackburn with Darwen Borough Council
Blackpool Council
Bolton Metropolitan Borough Council
Bury Metropolitan Borough Council
Lancashire County Council
Manchester City Council
Oldham Metropolitan Borough Council
Rochdale Borough Council
Salford City Council
Stockport Metropolitan Borough Council
Tameside Metropolitan Borough Council
Trafford Metropolitan Borough Council
Wigan Metropolitan Borough Council

North East:
Darlington Borough Council
Durham County Council
Gateshead Borough Council
Hartlepool Borough Council
Middlesbrough Council
Newcastle upon Tyne City Council
North Tyneside Borough Council
Northumberland County Council
Redcar and Cleveland Borough Council
South Tyneside Borough Council
Stockton-on-Tees Borough Council
Sunderland City Council

Yorkshire and The Humber:
Barnsley Metropolitan Borough Council
Calderdale Metropolitan Borough Council
City of Bradford Metropolitan District Council
Doncaster Metropolitan Borough Council
East Riding of Yorkshire Council
Hull City Council
Kirklees Metropolitan Borough Council
Leeds City Council
North Lincolnshire Council
Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council
Sheffield City Council
Wakefield Metropolitan District Council
North East Lincolnshire Council

East Midlands:
Derby City Council
Derbyshire County Council
Leicester City Council
Leicestershire County Council
Lincolnshire County Council
Nottingham City Council
Nottinghamshire County Council

West Midlands:
Birmingham City Council
Coventry City Council
Dudley Metropolitan Borough Council
Sandwell Metropolitan Borough Council
Solihull Metropolitan Borough Council
Staffordshire County Council
Stoke-on-Trent Borough Council
Walsall Metropolitan Borough Council
Warwickshire County Council
Wolverhampton Borough Council

South East:
Kent County Council
Medway Council
Slough Borough Council

South West:
Bristol City Council
North Somerset Council
South Gloucestershire Council

Moved from Tier 2 to Tier 3 from 16 December (SI 2020/1533)

East of England:
Basildon Borough Council
Braintree District Council
Brentwood Borough Council
Broxbourne Borough Council
Castle Point Borough Council
Chelmsford City Council
Epping Forest District Council
Harlow District Council
Hertsmere Borough Council
Maldon District Council
Rochford District Council
Southend-on-Sea Borough Council
Three Rivers District Council
Thurrock Council
Watford Borough Council

London:
City of Westminster
London Borough of Barking and Dagenham
London Borough of Barnet
London Borough of Bexley
London Borough of Brent
London Borough of Bromley
London Borough of Camden
London Borough of Croydon
London Borough of Ealing
London Borough of Enfield
London Borough of Hackney
London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham
London Borough of Haringey
London Borough of Harrow
London Borough of Havering
London Borough of Hillingdon
London Borough of Hounslow
London Borough of Islington
London Borough of Lambeth
London Borough of Lewisham
London Borough of Merton
London Borough of Newham
London Borough of Redbridge
London Borough of Richmond upon Thames
London Borough of Southwark
London Borough of Sutton
London Borough of Tower Hamlets
London Borough of Waltham Forest Council
London Borough of Wandsworth Council
Royal Borough of Greenwich
Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea
Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames
The Common Council, in respect of the City of London
The Sub-Treasurer, in respect of the Inner Temple and the Under Treasurer, in respect of the
Middle Temple

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Old Nov 30, 2020, 11:22 am
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Old Nov 30, 2020, 3:28 pm
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Old Nov 30, 2020, 7:47 pm
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Old Dec 1, 2020, 12:36 am
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Old Dec 1, 2020, 8:09 pm
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So London is tier 2? I might spend the night there when I arrive into LHR on the 21st before I head to my moms in Kent. T2 means pubs and retail are open?
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Old Dec 2, 2020, 12:28 am
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Originally Posted by enviroian
So London is tier 2? I might spend the night there when I arrive into LHR on the 21st before I head to my moms in Kent. T2 means pubs and retail are open?
IIRC though, are you not travelling from the USA? In which case you’d be required to self-isolate, so the availability of pubs and retail would be moot. Sorry if I have misremembered your situation.
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Old Dec 3, 2020, 3:49 am
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Further restrictions/changes in Wales from 4 December 2020

Hospitality and entertainment industry
Pubs, restaurants and cafes in Wales will be banned from serving alcohol from Friday and will be unable to open to customers beyond 18:00 GMT. Businesses can offer a takeaway service after 18:00, and if they have an off-licence can sell takeaway alcohol up until 22:00. However the rule allowing four people from four different households to meet indoors in pubs and restaurants will stay in place.

Indoor entertainment and visitor attractions, including cinemas, museums and galleries, bingo halls, bowling alleys, soft play centres, casinos, skating rinks and amusement arcades will also have to shut.

The decision will be reviewed on 17 December.

Travel between England and Wales
It has just been announced people will be able to travel between Wales and England's tier one and two areas. Travel into tier three zones is still prohibited under the regulations, which come into force at 18:00 GMT on Friday.

The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions and Functions of Local Authorities) (Amendment) (Wales) Regulations 2020
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/wsi/2...0201409_en.pdf
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Old Dec 3, 2020, 5:13 am
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So currently

Restrictions on travel in to and from Wales
- no person outside Wales man enter or remain without reasonable excuse
- no person living in Wales may leave Wales without reasonable excuse
- reasonable excuse is one where the purpose is reasonably necessary and there is no practicable alternative and may include obtaining medical assistance, legal obligations, work, obtaining food and medical supplies etc.

From 6pm Friday the restrictions for travel to Wales, and for travel from Wales to other parts of the UK, only continue to apply to
- England Tier 3 areas
- all of Northern Ireland
- Scotland Level 3 & 4 areas.
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