Oct 15, 20, 7:45 pm
Local lockdowns in the UK
Nov 1, 20, 6:20 am
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Nov 1, 20, 10:42 am
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Any idea what will be permissible reasons to fly abroad during this period? The guidance says work or other essential travel... will it prohibit nationals from other countries going back to their home country? So many open questions around the travel piece...
Nov 1, 20, 2:02 pm
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Foreign nationals planning to arrive in the UK from abroad between 5 November - 2 December may still do so, however they will need to follow the appropriate lockdown rules in England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.
Nov 1, 20, 2:37 pm
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That quote about foreign nationals arriving is also the way things have been since March. People arrive from abroad for many reasons, work or family or education etc and they just have to follow the rules of the nation where they live. Nothing changed there - so it is accurate.
Nov 1, 20, 2:45 pm
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That quote about foreign nationals arriving is also the way things have been since March. People arrive from abroad for many reasons, work or family or education etc and they just have to follow the rules of the nation where they live. Nothing changed there - so it is accurate.
Nov 1, 20, 3:46 pm
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Yes, agreed. What I am wondering about is (1) whether or not there might be, as c-w-s mentioned, increased focus on the PLF, and (2) any filtering or barring of arriving non-residents based on either the PLF of the purpose of the visit. I think during the initial lockdown neither of these were an issue?
Nov 1, 20, 5:31 pm
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There were apparently a few people denied entry to the UK since they were deemed not to be going along with the restrictions. The case I recall was an American woman who wanted to assist her daughter after childbirth, which the Border Force officer couldn't reconcile with the need to keep households apart (there may well have been more to this, of course). In essence if you are UK resident you can't travel internationally other than for work (and that includes those who are not UK citizens but are UK residents); for those visiting they have to comply with stay-at-home guidelines. For those transferring, overnight stays may now be tricky until 2 December.
Nov 1, 20, 5:50 pm
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Um, I guess I do, but not if you leave or arrive via LHR or another English airport. Well, I doubt the SI will be written with every loophole comprehensively handled - at least that hasn't happened so far - but it wouldn't seem to be within the intent of this if a Scottish resident travelled through England to depart internationally, unless it was work related. It may be a moot point if flights continue to be cancelled.
Nov 1, 20, 5:59 pm
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Yes, if you are travelling to get to an educational establishment, such as attending university or returning from a boarding school, or doing fieldwork overseas, that's definitely OK. That's considered essential.
Nov 1, 20, 9:49 pm
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All thoughts of mine, also. Interesting detail from the BBC, though the source is not specified, so who knows how accurate it is:
Foreign nationals planning to arrive in the UK from abroad between 5 November - 2 December may still do so, however they will need to follow the appropriate lockdown rules in England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.
For those planning to travel into England, you should check the current travel corridor list to see whether you need to isolate for 14 days. You will still be required to abide by the restrictions set out here even if you do not need to isolate. If you do need to travel overseas from England before 2 December (and are legally permitted to do so, for example, because it is for work), even if you are returning to a place youve visited before, you should look at the rules in place at your destination, the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO) travel advice.
British nationals currently abroad do not need to return home immediately. However, you should check with your airline or travel operator on arrangements for returning.
British nationals currently abroad do not need to return home immediately. However, you should check with your airline or travel operator on arrangements for returning.
Nov 2, 20, 2:30 am
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Um, I guess I do, but not if you leave or arrive via LHR or another English airport. Well, I doubt the SI will be written with every loophole comprehensively handled - at least that hasn't happened so far - but it wouldn't seem to be within the intent of this if a Scottish resident travelled through England to depart internationally, unless it was work related. It may be a moot point if flights continue to be cancelled.
Nov 2, 20, 2:37 am
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The overnight stop makes no difference, but it would be against at least the guidelines for someone to do this unless it was work related. And coming back, with the reduced level of flights, I suspect your PLF may get more scrutiny. I have my doubts that an enforceable statutory instrument can be devised from this, but the message should be clear by now: travel needs to be essential. The Scottish Government will probably be making announcements after Cobra today, they have already asked people not to travel to England except for essential purposes.
Nov 2, 20, 2:52 am
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Im still unclear though, what will happen if I show up next week at Heathrow to take a flight? Is someone going to validate the reason for my travel? Do I need to have any sort of proof or documentation to that end? Or is this more of a self-regulated approach?
