Brexit and Travel

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Preamble:
This is intended to be a purely factual guide to the travel implications of Brexit. It is an issue with strongly held views, we have used our best endeavours to stick to a non judgemental FAQ for the likely impact of Brexit on travel. In many areas it is not yet sure what the outcome will be, and for these issues we have said just that, rather than going into all the potential scenarios.


Timetable

Brexit: when is it going to happen?
It was originally scheduled for 23:00 hrs UK time on Friday 29 March, however the House of Commons is expected to approve the EU's offer to extend the date until potentially 31 October 2019. However a range of options could now happen, but until 1 June the UK remains a full member of the EU. It remains the UK government's intention for the UK – including Gibraltar, Channel Islands, Isle of Man and the Sovereign Bases on Cyprus, to leave the European Union at some point. At this point there is still a lot of uncertainty on timings and outcomes.

What is the current state of play?
To cut an extremely long story short, the UK Parliament has so far been unable to reach agreement on the terms of the UK’s departure. A deal has been agreed between the UK and EU on future relations – notably including a transition period of at least 2 years when very little will change – however so far the UK government has been unsuccessful in getting any deal through Parliament.

When is Brexit day?
When we refer to Brexit Day, we mean the date of the UK's departure from the European Union, which is currently unknown. Realistically it cannot be before 1 June 2019, it could be 31 October, it could be later than that. The government is targeting 22 May 2019 for getting a deal through the Parliament in Westminster, to allow the 1 June date to become Brexit day, however there is considerable uncertainty at the moment.

When will we know more out how Brexit will happen?
Parliament will be in its Easter Recess until 22 April so we are unlikely to hear anything more until then. Thereafter the government and parliament will need to agree a way forward to resolve Brexit.

Will anything happen to travel before Brexit Day?
No, the UK remains a full member of the EU to at least that date, subject to Parliament approving the EU's offer as anticipated.

What happens to travel on Brexit Day itself, and in the days after?
There remains some uncertainty as the detailed questions below indicate. If a deal is reached similar to the one already drafted, then it would appear almost nothing will change on Brexit day, existing processes and procedures will continue for a transition period of at least 2 years. It now seems likely that the UK will only leave the European Union with a deal, so the 2 year transition after Brexit Day seems inevitable, though strictly speaking No Deal, and therefore no transition is theoretically possible.


Air Travel

Will my flight to the EU after Brexit Day still operate?
Not certain, but probably yes. Check this thread later for updates. The EU has offered a 9 to 12 month continuation – with certain conditions and provisos – even if there is no deal but there are a large number of unknown factors.

What about flights to the USA which are currently covered by an EU/USA agreement?
In November 2018 it was announced that a new ‘open skies’ air services arrangement had been agreed with the United States. This will replace the current EU agreement. So these flights will continue regardless of Brexit.

Will UK airlines still have to meet EU associated legislation such as EC261 and GDPR after Brexit?
Yes. Both of those projects are already incorporated under UK legislation and will continue to operate as now. Longer term there could be divergences on some details.

Will airlines have to change their way of working after Brexit?
Not certain. It’s a complex area, involving ownership rules, but check back here later for updates on this one. Several initiatives are currently being resolved here.

What about airline failures such as flybmi – is there a risk that other airlines will go to the wall?
Yes. The larger European legacy airlines (BA, Virgin, IB, AF, KLM, Lufthansa etc) have good resources so it would seem unlikely in the short term. But it is known that a number of other airlines are watching their cashflow, most notably Norwegian, though Brexit is by no means the only factor involved here.


Train (Eurostar)

Where will passport checks happen on the Eurostar?
There will be no change on locations, all parties have agreed to continue existing arrangements. At London St. Pancras, French immigration - on behalf of all Schengen countries - checks passports for entry into mainland Europe. For EU/EEA passport holders this is usually done by e-gates. For other nationalities (with some exceptions) you go to the desk of an officer of DCPAF (the French equivalent of the UK Border Force). The UK Border Force may also do a passport check at St Pancras but often don't. At Paris Gare du Nord when returning to the UK there are again e-gates and DCPAF officers for leaving Schengen; then there is always a UK Border Force check after that, also using e-gates for EU27, EEA and some other nationalities. At Bruxelles Midi/Zuid it's quite similar, however note that you can't proceed through passport control until your train is the next service to depart, so don't arrive too early. On arrival into London or Paris (etc) there are no further checks, though there could theoretically be spot ID checks at either end.

Will there be disruption on Eurostar immediately after Brexit?
Not certain, please check back here later. The potential difficulty relates to the use of e-gates and data sharing agreements.


Ferries

Will my ferry between UK and mainland Europe operate?
Almost certainly yes. Many of the operational treaties date back before the UK joined the EU. There may be some issues at the start to do with relatively minor aspects of operations such as data exchange.

Will there be disruption, cancellations or delays immediately after Brexit Day?
Not certain. Check back here later for clarity on that one.


Movement between countries

Will I be able to travel between Northern Ireland and the Republic after Brexit Day?
Almost certainly yes, since that is protected by the Multi Party and British Irish Agreements, generally known as the Good Friday Agreement. But a lot of specific details remains uncertain.

I am a UK passport holder, will I need a visa for Europe?
Almost certainly not. While this was a potential scenario at one point, it is now difficult to see how that would happen.

To enter Schengen as a non-EU/Schengen citizen, your passport needs to be valid for an extra 90 or 180 days. Will this apply to British citizens after Brexit?
Not certain, but if a visa is not necessary then usually it means a UK passport will need at least 180 days' validity on arrival. However this is now an unlikely requirement.

Britain probably has a similar rule for non-EU citizens. Will this be extended to EU citizens after Brexit?
No. The UK government is not making this requirement, however a very short validity period on a passport may raise questions with Border Force officers.

Non-EU citizens have to fill in a landing card upon arrival to the UK. Will EU citizens have to do this after Brexit?
No, EU27 and EEA citizens will not be required to fill in Landing Cards, which are due to be abolished for all travellers in the future.

How long can I stay for in the EU27/EEA as a UK passport holder?
In Ireland there are no restrictions. In Schengen this remains unclear at this stage.

What about travel to Switzerland, Norway and Iceland?
These countries are not in the EU but are in Schengen, so any changes that come about for the EU on Brexit Day can be read over to these 3 countries.

I am a UK passport holder, what passport queues will I need on the mainland? The one for European citizens?
If there is a No Deal outcome, which is now unlikely, then UK citizens would be using the "non EU citizens" line, but check back here for updates. At many Schengen airports UK and Irish citizens constitute the bulk of processed passengers.

Won’t UK citizens need to apply for an Electronic Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS) to visit the EU?
Not for the time being, and in any case the EU’s proposed system won’t be rolled out until at least 2021.

I am EU27 / EEA citizen, will I need a visa for the UK?
No, not for short duration tourism and business visits, the UK government has committed not to introduce restrictions.

I am an EU27 citizen – will my passport work in the e-gates after Brexit?
Not certain since it relates to data sharing agreements, but it is likely that you can continue to use e-gates. Check back here later.

What about European ID cards? Can these be used to enter the UK?
Almost certainly yes. The UK government has not indicated any change in this area, however again there could be issues on data sharing.

I'm a USA (Canadian/Australian etc) citizen - what will change for me on Brexit Day?
Very little from what we know. The existing rules for Schengen on the Mainland, for the UK and Ireland will remain in place for non European visitors. The possible exception will be nationals with UK ties outside Europe such as from Bermuda, where there is considerable lack of clarity at the moment.


Money & Health

Will credit and debit cards still work after Brexit?
Yes. There may be changes to exchange rates around this period, however, and there may be delays in processing times.

What about EHIC cards?
Not certain. EHIC cards provide health insurance protection within the EU and EEA. Non EU reciprocal arrangements (e.g. between UK and Australia) will continue. It will be worth reviewing your travel insurance nearer to Brexit day, to ensure you have proper cover. EHIC is not comprehensive insurance in any case.


Car Hire

What about car hire and driving licences?
Not certain. Check back later on this one, driving regulations for Ireland are also unknown at this stage. It may be sensible to apply for an International Driving Permit from your Post Office if a UK licence holder. Spain, Ireland, Malta and Cyprus have a different IDP (IDP1949) to the rest of the EU, Norway and Switzerland (IDP1968). There is a third IDP (IDP1926) but that's not needed in the EU. You may also need your insurer to provide a Green Card to prove your insurance cover, if driving a non-hire vehicle.


Other issues

Will I get a duty free allowance after Brexit Day between UK and Europe?
Not certain, but it seems unlikely.

Will my mobile/cellular telephone face different roaming charges after Brexit?
Not resolved at the moment, but almost certainly the website of your telephone provider will make this clear as we get nearer to Brexit day.
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Old Mar 1, 19, 9:08 pm
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Might I suggest that the following wording in the wiki is a little too qualified, and may cause unnecessary alarm especially to overseas visitors who may not know much about the situation. The likelihood of flights operating as normal is a lot more than probable.

Will my flight to the EU after 30 March still operate?

Not certain, but probably yes.
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Old Mar 2, 19, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by Ldnn1 View Post
Might I suggest that the following wording in the wiki is a little too qualified, and may cause unnecessary alarm especially to overseas visitors who may not know much about the situation. The likelihood of flights operating as normal is a lot more than probable.
You need to read the whole response, which provides much more context - and I can assure members it was provided by someone who has a far greater knowledge of what’s happening than most other people on FT.

There are very few issues that are completely resolved right now, so it would be irresponsible of anyone to provide - in the closest thing we have to ‘official’ advice - a categorical assurance everything will be fine when there are still many things to work through. Taking that into account, I think the answer as a whole is accurate and realistic.
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We are travelling on Australian passports and will be entering the UK via Eurostar from Paris in early April. In the past this has been very straightforward in terms of travel documentation, but I am wondering whether we are going to end with a Heathrow-like scrum at Border Security when we disembark at St Pancras?
The passport control for entering the UK is in Paris, not at St Pancras.
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The passport control for entering the UK is in Paris, not at St Pancras.
It is now.
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The passport control for entering the UK is in Paris, not at St Pancras.
My question is related to the situation if Brexit actually happens at the end of March, not what happens now.
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My question is related to the situation if Brexit actually happens at the end of March, not what happens now.
I think I've read somewhere (although I don't remember where) that the location of the Eurostar passport control is determined by some treaty between the UK and France and that it doesn't depend on some part of an EU treaty, regulation or directive, so I'd imagine that Brexit won't change anything.

If a customs control is added, I don't know where it would take place.
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With regard to mobile/ cell phone usage this is reasonably covered. The article below details HM Gov's approach in both a Deal and No Deal scenario. The price cap would actually come down £5 / E5 to £45 with the current EU set limit being £50. I have repeatedly pushed my own cell phone provider ( Three) on this subject. They have generally been well ahead of the curve providing "feel at home" services on a global scale rather than just within the EU and have said they are working towards & operating on the basis of an 'as is' continuation of the service as they had negotiated on a country by country basis ahead of the legislation in the most part when it comes to the EU. I have had to accept that the level of detail they can provide is limited as they are commercially sensitive. Obviously I can only speak for their position but in our discussions ( over several months now) they see it as a commercially positive move and a good sales tool IF EU 27 providers dont want to play ball as their own pre existing agreements mean they are mostly unaffected. I've tried to keep this focussed on knowledge provided keeping my own feelings on how I think they will act & again I have no idea how it may affect other providers.

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Old Mar 4, 19, 6:00 am
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Originally Posted by RealityBites View Post
We are travelling on Australian passports and will be entering the UK via Eurostar from Paris in early April. In the past this has been very straightforward in terms of travel documentation, but I am wondering whether we are going to end with a Heathrow-like scrum at Border Security when we disembark at St Pancras?

Does anyone know how this will work in practice?
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The passport control for entering the UK is in Paris, not at St Pancras.
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It is now.
Originally Posted by RealityBites View Post
My question is related to the situation if Brexit actually happens at the end of March, not what happens now.
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I think I've read somewhere (although I don't remember where) that the location of the Eurostar passport control is determined by some treaty between the UK and France and that it doesn't depend on some part of an EU treaty, regulation or directive, so I'd imagine that Brexit won't change anything.

If a customs control is added, I don't know where it would take place.
There has been an update to the Eurostar advice in the wiki which sets out the currently known position.

The wiki has also been arranged into broad categories given there are challenges and/or obstacles which are not necessarily common to - for example - air and train travel.

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I think I've read somewhere (although I don't remember where) that the location of the Eurostar passport control is determined by some treaty between the UK and France and that it doesn't depend on some part of an EU treaty, regulation or directive, so I'd imagine that Brexit won't change anything.

If a customs control is added, I don't know where it would take place.
This is my understanding of the position. A treaty is required because French agents are stationed on UK soil and vice-versa.
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IIRC, it's an extension to the Sangatte Protocol.

There used to be loads of juxtaposed controls by rail - I remember going through them regularly in places like Geneva, Basel, Bratislava, etc. Are there any left in Europe besides Eurostar?

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Cabotage

Any idea if cabotage rules are likely after brexit? (I know no one can say with any certainty but...

i have this bonkers plan forming, one part of which may involve flying [UK]-[DUB]-[UK] all within one day

the uk ports will be any combination of LCY, LHR, EDI or GLA

i know the answer is probably all good but wondered if anyone had heard any rumblings?
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Originally Posted by stut View Post
IIRC, it's an extension to the Sangatte Protocol.

There used to be loads of juxtaposed controls by rail - I remember going through them regularly in places like Geneva, Basel, Bratislava, etc. Are there any left in Europe besides Eurostar?

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Random controls entering Germany by train from Austria and Poland
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Random controls entering Germany by train from Austria and Poland
Sure, but I was thinking of the Eurostar-style pre-clearance. You used to have special platforms at stations like Geneve-Cornavin, Bale-SNCF, Bratislava Petrzalka, etc. I understand that Bale-SNCF has more or less been reinstated, and of course there were the private pre-checks at Copenhagen Airport a couple of years ago.

Anyway, this is me going way off topic I've just got my fingers crossed that my holiday at the start of April will go ahead with relative ease!
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Anything of note in here?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/air-serv...ent-of-no-deal

It was just published.
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Originally Posted by nancypants View Post
Any idea if cabotage rules are likely after brexit? (I know no one can say with any certainty but...

i have this bonkers plan forming, one part of which may involve flying [UK]-[DUB]-[UK] all within one day

the uk ports will be any combination of LCY, LHR, EDI or GLA

i know the answer is probably all good but wondered if anyone had heard any rumblings?
What does cabotage have to do with flying between the UK and Ireland?
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