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Old Nov 5, 18, 9:33 am
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Travelcard question

I have a travel card and has saved me quite a sum of money over time. I normally use it when I take the fast train from Ashford to St Pancras then tube from Kings Cross to LHR. I get my ticket from the agent at Ashford for travel all the way through. This time my journey will be in reverse. Should I just use my Iphone ipay to get a one way tube fare from T3 to Kings Cross, walk across the street and use my travelcard to get a discount on the fast train to Ashford Int'l or should I see a ticket agent at T3 and have them ticket it all the way through? I would imagine the ticket booth at T3 underground is probably stalled with a long long all the time.
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Old Nov 5, 18, 1:54 pm
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Do you mean a railcard rather than a travelcard?

And do you need to return from Ashford, either on the same day or some time later?
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Do you mean a railcard rather than a travelcard?

And do you need to return from Ashford, either on the same day or some time later?
Sorry yes railcard.

For this trip I will not need a return as Iím getting a ride back to lhr.

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Ok, and what day/time are you travelling?
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Ok, and what day/time are you travelling?
Arriving at 9 am Lhr Sunday 11/18
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Well a Super Off Peak from STP to Ashford is £21.30 with a railcard. The tube fare is £3.10 (or £2.05 if you have your railcard loaded onto an Oyster card). So £24.40 total.

A through ticket from LHR is £27.35, so the separate tickets is cheaper here.

You can save more by buying an Advance ticket if available, but you then lose flexibility on timing. With a Super Off-Peak you can jump on any train.

As for picking up, just buy the ticket online and you can pick it up at one of the machines at either LHR or STP. You don't need to use the ticket office.
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Well a Super Off Peak from STP to Ashford is £21.30 with a railcard. The tube fare is £3.10 (or £2.05 if you have your railcard loaded onto an Oyster card). So £24.40 total.

A through ticket from LHR is £27.35, so the separate tickets is cheaper here.

You can save more by buying an Advance ticket if available, but you then lose flexibility on timing. With a Super Off-Peak you can jump on any train.

As for picking up, just buy the ticket online and you can pick it up at one of the machines at either LHR or STP. You don't need to use the ticket office.
Thanks. I canít buy cheaper ticket as there is a window of time Iíll get into st pancras coming from lhr. Buying the ticket online I found out is a total waste of time as I need to re-check in with a machine at st pancras so Iíll just use my iPhone at the lhr tube entry and buy a ticket from a ticket office at st pancras.
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Thanks. I can’t buy cheaper ticket as there is a window of time I’ll get into st pancras coming from lhr. Buying the ticket online I found out is a total waste of time as I need to re-check in with a machine at st pancras so I’ll just use my iPhone at the lhr tube entry and buy a ticket from a ticket office at st pancras.
The benefit of buying online is you could then pick it up at LHR if you have a few mins to spare before the next Tube departs (less of an issue at T2/3, more at T4/5). This would save you having to pick up at STP which could translate into a 30min time saving on a Sunday.

If there's a Tube about to leave, you could still jump on that and pick up at STP.
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The benefit of buying online is you could then pick it up at LHR if you have a few mins to spare before the next Tube departs. This would save you having to pick up at STP which could translate into a 30min time saving on a Sunday.

If there's a Tube about to leave, you could still jump on that and pick up at STP.
What is stp? If I buy online can I apply my travel card for the discount?
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Originally Posted by enviroian View Post
What is stp? If I buy online can I apply my travel card for the discount?
St Pancras.

Yes you can, but call it a railcard. A travelcard is a type of ticket - it'll cause confusion with staff if you mix up the two.
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Originally Posted by Ldnn1 View Post
St Pancras.

Yes you can, but call it a railcard. A travelcard is a type of ticket - it'll cause confusion with staff if you mix up the two.
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And just to reiterate the advice as always, don't buy from thetrainline.com which adds completely unnecessary fees.

Buy from Southeastern or any of the other train operating companies. Nationalrail.co.uk will direct you to these.
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And just to reiterate the advice as always, don't buy from thetrainline.com which adds completely unnecessary fees.

Buy from Southeastern or any of the other train operating companies. Nationalrail.co.uk will direct you to these.
Thanks yes I have only bought from southeastern in the past.

So there is a kiosk at the Lhr underground where I can pick it up? Normally I would have gone to the two kiosks next to the ticket office at STP that always have a line.

Another frustrating thing is the ticket doesn't say what platform. I do know it's usually 5 or 6 (the escalators in front of the Starbucks and that sushi place) but from there I have to flag down an employee to find out what platform the next express/fast train to Ashford International is. Ugh.
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So there is a kiosk at the Lhr underground where I can pick it up?
Not in the Underground station but from the rail ticket machines in the terminal. According to the trainline.com these are:
T2 and 3 - Opposite the Heathrow Express Ticket desk in the Central Terminal area - this is after you enter the station and before the lifts to platform level. [Note this is different to the Underground station - you walk past the rail station if going to the Underground from T3, but not from T2. I believe there are also machines in T2 and T3 Arrivals itself but am not 100% certain of this.]
T4 - on the Arrivals level opposite the Heathrow Express Ticket desk.
T5 - to the left of the ticket desk on Arrivals level.


Another frustrating thing is the ticket doesn't say what platform. I do know it's usually 5 or 6 (the escalators in front of the Starbucks and that sushi place) but from there I have to flag down an employee to find out what platform the next express/fast train to Ashford International is. Ugh.
You can find out live platforms for any train from the National Rail website or app, or that of any train operating company. However the Southeastern platforms at St Pancras are always 11-13.
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However the Southeastern platforms at St Pancras are always 11-13.
Perhaps that's half my problem right there!

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