Oyster Cards
Jan 4, 2018, 3:53 pm
#31
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Yup, "No HS1" means it's not valid to St Pancras. However, it's a common enough mistake, and there is a supplement you can buy to make up the fare.
Jan 4, 2018, 5:13 pm
#32
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Anyway, all's well that ends well.
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Jan 4, 2018, 7:49 pm
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Strange that you had the conversation about St Pancras and the Ł31 ticket and yet ended up with the wrong one. Evidently some sort of miscommunication - I'm thinking maybe he was saying it's ~Ł7 extra for the High Speed rather than Underground, which you then declined. You can indeed get a Travelcard for about Ł8 more (at 2018 prices, not sure what exactly it was in 2017), so it could of course have been that, but then it's odd that he then sold you the non-HS1 ticket.
Anyway, all's well that ends well.
Anyway, all's well that ends well.
Jan 5, 2018, 12:41 am
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To define "London Terminals" for rail tickets is worthy of a doctoral thesis. It depends....
In your specific case, your ticket was valid to London Bridge, Cannon Street, Waterloo, Charring Cross, Blackfriars, Victoria.
In your specific case, your ticket was valid to London Bridge, Cannon Street, Waterloo, Charring Cross, Blackfriars, Victoria.
Jan 5, 2018, 2:07 am
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The synopsis is: any of the terminal stations plus major intermediate ones that you can reasonably get to without passing through Farringdon, plus a whole bunch of quirky exceptions*.
But from Ashford, you would have been able to get the Victoria or Charing X trains (plus occasional Cannon St and Blackfriars ones) and would have been able to go to London Bridge, Cannon Street, Waterloo East, Blackfriars and City Thameslink quite freely (as well as all intermediate stations).
I'm surprised (and pleased for you) that the barriers at St Pancras let you through, though. They normally reject half the valid tickets, let alone the invalid ones!
*My favourite being that train tickets to London on Great Northern services are valid on the Tube to Moorgate. You can also get off at Old Street, but not at any other intermediate station. This is why the ticket barriers at King's Cross give back all tickets where most others retain them.
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Jan 5, 2018, 5:14 pm
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Oh I noticed that to get to Kings Cross I simply walk off the escalator and cross the street to the Picadilly line. For some god forsaken unknown reason, before I would walk all the way down to long corridor of St Pancras to get to King Cross tube. It was a solid 10 walk and let me tell you when I walk i'm cruising at about 8 kts LOL I don't know what I was thinking (or smoking).
I'm back in May. I'll get it right this time.
Jan 5, 2018, 6:43 pm
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I generally use the exit/entry on the Southeastern corner of St. Pancras on the corner of Pancras Rd. and Euston Rd. From that ticket hall (the central ticket hall in the middle of the map below) you can reach all lines fairly quickly.
Jan 8, 2018, 12:16 am
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Actually.... The ticket agent did not sell you the wrong ticket. He /she saved you money. Because of engineering closure at London Bridge there was a special ticket acceptance regime in operation on your travel date. For the three working days between Christmas and new year, the list priced "not valid on HS1" tickets are actually valid on HS1.
https://www.southeasternrailway.co.u...idge.pdf?la=en
https://www.southeasternrailway.co.u...idge.pdf?la=en
Jan 8, 2018, 1:57 pm
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Actually.... The ticket agent did not sell you the wrong ticket. He /she saved you money. Because of engineering closure at London Bridge there was a special ticket acceptance regime in operation on your travel date. For the three working days between Christmas and new year, the list priced "not valid on HS1" tickets are actually valid on HS1.
https://www.southeasternrailway.co.u...idge.pdf?la=en
https://www.southeasternrailway.co.u...idge.pdf?la=en
Jan 8, 2018, 5:52 pm
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Actually.... The ticket agent did not sell you the wrong ticket. He /she saved you money. Because of engineering closure at London Bridge there was a special ticket acceptance regime in operation on your travel date. For the three working days between Christmas and new year, the list priced "not valid on HS1" tickets are actually valid on HS1.
https://www.southeasternrailway.co.u...idge.pdf?la=en
https://www.southeasternrailway.co.u...idge.pdf?la=en
Thanks
Jan 18, 2018, 3:47 pm
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St.Pancras/King's Cross underground station is my least favourite station. It's crucial to get the correct entry/exit and avoid lengthy walks.
I generally use the exit/entry on the Southeastern corner of St. Pancras on the corner of Pancras Rd. and Euston Rd. From that ticket hall (the central ticket hall in the middle of the map below) you can reach all lines fairly quickly.
I generally use the exit/entry on the Southeastern corner of St. Pancras on the corner of Pancras Rd. and Euston Rd. From that ticket hall (the central ticket hall in the middle of the map below) you can reach all lines fairly quickly.
Jan 18, 2018, 5:32 pm
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Google. I remember seeing a similar (but much more simplified) map of that station with the general advice being "Follow the sign "Hammersmith&City Line" for relatively quick and easy access to all lines from street-level.
King's Cross/St.Pancras and Bank/Monument must be annoying to less regular users. Crossrail won't be making things easier. Trains will be quite a bit longer than tube trains making walking distances greater if you are at the 'wrong' end.
King's Cross/St.Pancras and Bank/Monument must be annoying to less regular users. Crossrail won't be making things easier. Trains will be quite a bit longer than tube trains making walking distances greater if you are at the 'wrong' end.