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#31
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I am afraid if you had gone through FRA or CDG you would have encountered the same issue.
#32
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Toiletries are supposed to be out of your large bag. This is fairly standard everywhere now. Perhaps you are used to TSA Pre where you can leave them in your bag? I am not surprised your bags were pulled for secondary screening if you didn't follow the rules. Also yes it is 100ml max per item. In terms of liquids it is anything which is a liquid, aerosol, gel, cream or paste. Again this is standard across Europe.
I am afraid if you had gone through FRA or CDG you would have encountered the same issue.
I am afraid if you had gone through FRA or CDG you would have encountered the same issue.
Yes, I know it's all justifiable if you want it to be in terms of security, but everywhere else goes "sir, do you have liquids in your bag" and just gets you to take them out. They even rescan them for you (if they're in-size) and usually explain the rules sympathetically if they're not.
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While this is correct, I do find LHR T5 far worse than most (and I'm including other UK airports in this) in their "send it down the other conveyor, make them wait 20 minutes while it sits there then pore over the bag very slowly because security" stakes.
Yes, I know it's all justifiable if you want it to be in terms of security, but everywhere else goes "sir, do you have liquids in your bag" and just gets you to take them out. They even rescan them for you (if they're in-size) and usually explain the rules sympathetically if they're not.
Yes, I know it's all justifiable if you want it to be in terms of security, but everywhere else goes "sir, do you have liquids in your bag" and just gets you to take them out. They even rescan them for you (if they're in-size) and usually explain the rules sympathetically if they're not.
#34
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The rules regarding liquids are pretty straightforward. So are the rules for notebooks and large tablets. They are IMO however somewhat unclear with regard to other electronics. I've had security screener seemingly making up different rules. In 8 out of 10 cases, my DSLR, additional lenses and cables don't cause a fuss when I travel with them. In the other cases I get pulled out for secondary checks or, if they see the camera before the scan, get scolded for not taking them out. After being pulled over in AMS and being scolded for not taking the camera out, I asked one screener at FRA if I had to take it out. Answer: "no". Moments later another screener scolded me for not taking it out. Same goes for cables: Sometimes out. Sometimes not. I'd appreciate a little consistency...
#35
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The rules regarding liquids are pretty straightforward. So are the rules for notebooks and large tablets. They are IMO however somewhat unclear with regard to other electronics. I've had security screener seemingly making up different rules. In 8 out of 10 cases, my DSLR, additional lenses and cables don't cause a fuss when I travel with them. In the other cases I get pulled out for secondary checks or, if they see the camera before the scan, get scolded for not taking them out. After being pulled over in AMS and being scolded for not taking the camera out, I asked one screener at FRA if I had to take it out. Answer: "no". Moments later another screener scolded me for not taking it out. Same goes for cables: Sometimes out. Sometimes not. I'd appreciate a little consistency...
You can’t plan for every foible - in ATH, for example, they always want me to take the lens off my DSLR so they can look through the glass, and there aren’t many ways round that - but you can certainly make your passage through much easier.
#36
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The rules regarding liquids are pretty straightforward. So are the rules for notebooks and large tablets. They are IMO however somewhat unclear with regard to other electronics. I've had security screener seemingly making up different rules. In 8 out of 10 cases, my DSLR, additional lenses and cables don't cause a fuss when I travel with them. In the other cases I get pulled out for secondary checks or, if they see the camera before the scan, get scolded for not taking them out. After being pulled over in AMS and being scolded for not taking the camera out, I asked one screener at FRA if I had to take it out. Answer: "no". Moments later another screener scolded me for not taking it out. Same goes for cables: Sometimes out. Sometimes not. I'd appreciate a little consistency...
#37
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I also get ready for security before joining the queue so my phone, wallet, watch etc always go in my bag. I take out my ipad and liquids bag. When I'm near the front of the queue my belt comes off so when I get to the tray I'm ready to put my stuff in the tray(s).Far too often I see supposedly regular flyers leaving it all to the last second before doing anything to get ready and they are the ones in the main who complain about security being slow!
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I just take everything that could confuse the person looking at the x-ray out. I also try to put them in separate trays. That way, I can repack most of my stuff if only one item is sent for manual checking, and when that is done I can chuck it in my bag while walking away.
#39
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It never ceases to amaze me how people walk past racks of plastic bags, then big signs telling them to remove toiletries and ignore the lot.
Then complain when they are pulled for secondary screening and delayed, usually with comments that suggest they are above it all.
I doubt security at UK airports are really interested in what the TSA does or doesn't do. Particularly as their record is pretty pathetic in this area.
The TSA Continues To Miss 95% Of Weapons - HOW IS THIS OKAY?!? - One Mile at a Time
Then complain when they are pulled for secondary screening and delayed, usually with comments that suggest they are above it all.
I doubt security at UK airports are really interested in what the TSA does or doesn't do. Particularly as their record is pretty pathetic in this area.
The TSA Continues To Miss 95% Of Weapons - HOW IS THIS OKAY?!? - One Mile at a Time
#40
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While this is correct, I do find LHR T5 far worse than most (and I'm including other UK airports in this) in their "send it down the other conveyor, make them wait 20 minutes while it sits there then pore over the bag very slowly because security" stakes.
Yes, I know it's all justifiable if you want it to be in terms of security, but everywhere else goes "sir, do you have liquids in your bag" and just gets you to take them out. They even rescan them for you (if they're in-size) and usually explain the rules sympathetically if they're not.
Yes, I know it's all justifiable if you want it to be in terms of security, but everywhere else goes "sir, do you have liquids in your bag" and just gets you to take them out. They even rescan them for you (if they're in-size) and usually explain the rules sympathetically if they're not.
And yep, it was my fault for leaving them in the bag. I guess I was exhausted from the long flight, plus having to walk a mile for the transfer at LHR.
Most other airports remind passengers to remove any liquids and laptops. I don’t recall getting any verbal reminder. And the signs are easy to miss because they are often placed near the entrance of security. If there is no line, you’ll walk right past it. They really need to rework their secondary screening procedure if they're going to pull 1 out of 3 bags.
Last edited by poisson; Jan 1, 2018 at 6:15 am
#41
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I am quite sure that every time I go through UK airport security someone is shouting at me to remove liquids (and laptops and tablets). Even if I'm the only person going through at the time, and they can see that I've already taken out a laptop and some liquids.
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Indeed. If anything there are too many reminders (countless signs before entering security, then next to the line, then from the staff).