Alternative FX and money transfer service? Fed up with Revolut
#17
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I use Transferwise every month. I send CHF (Swiss francs) to Transferwise and they deposit EUR in my account. Process takes about 2 or 3 days (1 day for transferwise to receive the money, 1 day to get the money from transferwise).
They can also hold money for you like Revolut because they have this concept of "Borderless account", but this is different than doing a transfer. I usually just do transfer so the money doesn't even go to this account, goes directly to my EUR account.
Also, I heard they were experimenting with a credit card which I think is in closed beta (invitation only), so in the future they might become an adversary to Revolut in the card business as well.
They can also hold money for you like Revolut because they have this concept of "Borderless account", but this is different than doing a transfer. I usually just do transfer so the money doesn't even go to this account, goes directly to my EUR account.
Also, I heard they were experimenting with a credit card which I think is in closed beta (invitation only), so in the future they might become an adversary to Revolut in the card business as well.
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See what Moneycorp has to offer you. I have used them in the past for transferring large amounts from country to country with no real hassle once an account has been set up. Both to make immediate transfers and to lock in an exchange rate for future transfers. I don't know if they have an APP or not, I don't use APPS personally.
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See what Moneycorp has to offer you. I have used them in the past for transferring large amounts from country to country with no real hassle once an account has been set up. Both to make immediate transfers and to lock in an exchange rate for future transfers. I don't know if they have an APP or not, I don't use APPS personally.
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transferwise with larger sums
Hopping onto this - does anyone using transferwise have experience with larger sums ($100k)?
They're quoting a rate about 0.1% off spot, and charging less than 0.5% fees... there's a saying about 'something seeming too good to be true', so I'd just like to do a bit of 'due diligence'.
Thanks
They're quoting a rate about 0.1% off spot, and charging less than 0.5% fees... there's a saying about 'something seeming too good to be true', so I'd just like to do a bit of 'due diligence'.
Thanks
#26
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I've done >$10k with OFX and HiFX and both have been trouble-fee and transparent. The only pain has been providing extra security either via a phone call or providing photocopies of ID, but it has not always been needed. (In both cases I have moved a few hundred dollars first to make sure everything works ok. Nice thing about Aus payment is using BPay so you don't risk fat-fingers typing numbers incorrectly.)
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Transferwise's borderless debit card offers accounts in USD, GBP, € and AUD and can transfer many more currencies. They use IBANs for these accounts. CHF transfers are made through Deutsche Bank, Zurich but as yet there is no CHF account.
We need an account to receive regular CHF payments from my wife's former Swiss employer. Until now, they have gone into her longstanding Swiss bank account, but her bank is closing non-resident services except at stupidly high cost. She has been unable to find a Swiss bank offering reasonable charges. In theory, these credits could go into her UK Nationwide account using SWIFT or SEPA services, but the amounts would be converted into sterling. My wife would prefer to keep her francs as francs, as I would in her situation.
Has anybody experience of transferring CHF (or other) payments to a UK account? Could TW do the job? Many thanks.
We need an account to receive regular CHF payments from my wife's former Swiss employer. Until now, they have gone into her longstanding Swiss bank account, but her bank is closing non-resident services except at stupidly high cost. She has been unable to find a Swiss bank offering reasonable charges. In theory, these credits could go into her UK Nationwide account using SWIFT or SEPA services, but the amounts would be converted into sterling. My wife would prefer to keep her francs as francs, as I would in her situation.
Has anybody experience of transferring CHF (or other) payments to a UK account? Could TW do the job? Many thanks.
#28
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Transferwise's borderless debit card offers accounts in USD, GBP, € and AUD and can transfer many more currencies. They use IBANs for these accounts. CHF transfers are made through Deutsche Bank, Zurich but as yet there is no CHF account.
We need an account to receive regular CHF payments from my wife's former Swiss employer. Until now, they have gone into her longstanding Swiss bank account, but her bank is closing non-resident services except at stupidly high cost. She has been unable to find a Swiss bank offering reasonable charges. In theory, these credits could go into her UK Nationwide account using SWIFT or SEPA services, but the amounts would be converted into sterling. My wife would prefer to keep her francs as francs, as I would in her situation.
Has anybody experience of transferring CHF (or other) payments to a UK account? Could TW do the job? Many thanks.
We need an account to receive regular CHF payments from my wife's former Swiss employer. Until now, they have gone into her longstanding Swiss bank account, but her bank is closing non-resident services except at stupidly high cost. She has been unable to find a Swiss bank offering reasonable charges. In theory, these credits could go into her UK Nationwide account using SWIFT or SEPA services, but the amounts would be converted into sterling. My wife would prefer to keep her francs as francs, as I would in her situation.
Has anybody experience of transferring CHF (or other) payments to a UK account? Could TW do the job? Many thanks.
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Here is an interesting story on Revolut, from the FT:
https://www.ft.com/content/8cf142df-...5-204c9a0a157b
It goes on...
https://www.ft.com/content/8cf142df-...5-204c9a0a157b
Revolut saga spotlights concerns over digital banks’ service standards
Account holder tells of eight-week battle to recover £150,000 bank transfer
Being repaid the £150,000 in dollars and euros that he had lent to a relative 10 years ago should have been good news for Richard Walker. Instead, it was the beginning of an eight-week nightmare this summer, when he was unable to find out why the money had not arrived in his account.
As more people sign up to online banks such as Revolut — and complaints about their services grow — the case of Mr Walker (whose name has been changed at his request) raises important questions about the digital future of banking. Can the newcomers to a heavily regulated sector live up to the fintech hype while maintaining the levels of service that customers have come to expect in their day-to-day financial activities?
It was the first time that a substantial sum had been paid into his account in the several years he had held it. As a lawyer and now a full-time parent, Mr Walker was aware that banks and electronic banking apps are required by the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 to monitor accounts for money laundering and fraudulent activity. A large sum being paid in from a foreign account looked suspicious. He decided to contact his bank to explain.
But Revolut did not have a telephone number. Instead it had an “in-app chat” facility that failed to work. A conversation would be started but not finished. A member of the Revolut team left the chat without closing it. Mr Walker found it impossible to make progress on finding his money or receiving a full explanation.
As more people sign up to online banks such as Revolut — and complaints about their services grow — the case of Mr Walker (whose name has been changed at his request) raises important questions about the digital future of banking. Can the newcomers to a heavily regulated sector live up to the fintech hype while maintaining the levels of service that customers have come to expect in their day-to-day financial activities?
Left hanging
Mr Walker’s money was transferred to his Revolut account on July 6. The electronic money account marked the amount as “pending”, but then nothing happened to change its status and give him access to the money.It was the first time that a substantial sum had been paid into his account in the several years he had held it. As a lawyer and now a full-time parent, Mr Walker was aware that banks and electronic banking apps are required by the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 to monitor accounts for money laundering and fraudulent activity. A large sum being paid in from a foreign account looked suspicious. He decided to contact his bank to explain.
But Revolut did not have a telephone number. Instead it had an “in-app chat” facility that failed to work. A conversation would be started but not finished. A member of the Revolut team left the chat without closing it. Mr Walker found it impossible to make progress on finding his money or receiving a full explanation.
#30
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Is Revolut an actual bank? I didn't think it conformed to banking laws. I use OFX or XE for money transfers since they have financial safeguards built in. I know many people use Transferwise but I am not sure of it's legal standing either.