Can a visitor give birth in the UK?
Nov 19, 2015, 11:32 am
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Some services or treatments carried out in an NHS hospital are exempt from charges, so they are free to all. These include:
accident and emergency services – not including emergency treatment if admitted to hospital
family planning services – this does not include termination of pregnancy or infertility treatment
treatment for most infectious diseases, including sexually transmitted infections (STIs)
treatment required for a physical or mental condition caused by torture, female genital mutilation, domestic violence or sexual violence – this does not apply if you have come to England to seek this treatment
accident and emergency services – not including emergency treatment if admitted to hospital
family planning services – this does not include termination of pregnancy or infertility treatment
treatment for most infectious diseases, including sexually transmitted infections (STIs)
treatment required for a physical or mental condition caused by torture, female genital mutilation, domestic violence or sexual violence – this does not apply if you have come to England to seek this treatment
Nov 20, 2015, 2:11 am
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No, it's not. If patients are not resident in the UK, they are sent a bill. Whether or not they pay is another matter (which actually can be taken up with their embassy), but A&E services are absolutely not free of charge for anyone and everyone physically present in the UK.
http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/uk-visitors/visiting-england/Pages/visitors-from-outside-the-eea.aspx
"Some services or treatments carried out in an NHS hospital are exempt from charges, so that they are free to all. These include:
•accident and emergency services – not including emergency treatment if admitted to hospital
•family planning services – this does not include termination of pregnancy or infertility treatment
•treatment for most infectious diseases, including sexually transmitted infections (STIs)
•treatment required for a physical or mental condition caused by torture, female genital mutilation (FGM), domestic violence or sexual violence – this does not apply if you have come to England for the purpose of seeking that treatment "
Nov 20, 2015, 8:12 am
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A&E services are an exception to the charging and no one pays for treatment. Should an admission be required then that charges kick in but, currently, anyone who presents at an A&E department is treated without charge. As the article above states, the government are looking to introduce such charges.
http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/uk-visitors/visiting-england/Pages/visitors-from-outside-the-eea.aspx
"Some services or treatments carried out in an NHS hospital are exempt from charges, so that they are free to all. These include:
•accident and emergency services – not including emergency treatment if admitted to hospital
•family planning services – this does not include termination of pregnancy or infertility treatment
•treatment for most infectious diseases, including sexually transmitted infections (STIs)
•treatment required for a physical or mental condition caused by torture, female genital mutilation (FGM), domestic violence or sexual violence – this does not apply if you have come to England for the purpose of seeking that treatment "
http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/uk-visitors/visiting-england/Pages/visitors-from-outside-the-eea.aspx
"Some services or treatments carried out in an NHS hospital are exempt from charges, so that they are free to all. These include:
•accident and emergency services – not including emergency treatment if admitted to hospital
•family planning services – this does not include termination of pregnancy or infertility treatment
•treatment for most infectious diseases, including sexually transmitted infections (STIs)
•treatment required for a physical or mental condition caused by torture, female genital mutilation (FGM), domestic violence or sexual violence – this does not apply if you have come to England for the purpose of seeking that treatment "
Nov 22, 2015, 1:40 pm
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Under EU rules, emergency medical treatment for short-term visitors is provided on the same terms as those normally entitled to treatment on the same terms as locals (so free in the UK). However, the cost is charged to the social security system of the home state. You are therefore normally expected to carry your EHIC for that purpose (so that they can take your details and bill your home social security system), otherwise they do send you a bill for the cost. My understanding is that it was the case that A&E did not charge at all but have started to do so. I certainly know that my mother, who had an accident while visiting London, was billed for her medical treatment here. We did not check the details of the bill to see whether there was a distinction between the immediate A&E cost and the consequential hospital admission.
Nov 22, 2015, 8:27 pm
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...hs-jeremy-hunt
Nov 22, 2015, 9:48 pm
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Can EHIC cards be procured after treatment so as to cover expenses incurred prior to enrolling for the EHIC? I'm asking because it seems like lots of people are still clueless about EHIC and often seem to only find out about it after seeking treatment abroad.
Nov 23, 2015, 6:41 am
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As you have a lot to do with Sweden, I looked up the situation there and it seems to be the case that you can claim the costs back later even if you don't have the card. However, the full answer to your question isn't clear to me - i.e. whether it is necessary to have at least expressed an interest in obtaining the card prior to the time you require it, or whether your eligibility is automatic/backdateable.
http://www.forsakringskassan.se/priv..._intyg/eu_kort
Also to keep on topic, an EHIC cannot be used if you are planning to give birth in an EEA country that you don't ordinarily reside in, but can be used in an emergency when you were not planning to give birth there.
Nov 23, 2015, 8:15 am
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Under EU rules, emergency medical treatment for short-term visitors is provided on the same terms as those normally entitled to treatment on the same terms as locals (so free in the UK). However, the cost is charged to the social security system of the home state. You are therefore normally expected to carry your EHIC for that purpose (so that they can take your details and bill your home social security system), otherwise they do send you a bill for the cost. My understanding is that it was the case that A&E did not charge at all but have started to do so. I certainly know that my mother, who had an accident while visiting London, was billed for her medical treatment here. We did not check the details of the bill to see whether there was a distinction between the immediate A&E cost and the consequential hospital admission.
It is not currently legal to charge for A&E visits although, as others have said, the government are reviewing this and fees may be introduced in future.
Nov 23, 2015, 8:59 am
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My understanding is that you must have the card itself, or a temporary certificate that can be issued in lieu of the card, but if you don't have a card then your travel insurance may still pay the amount you would have saved with the EHIC.
As you have a lot to do with Sweden, I looked up the situation there and it seems to be the case that you can claim the costs back later even if you don't have the card. However, the full answer to your question isn't clear to me - i.e. whether it is necessary to have at least expressed an interest in obtaining the card prior to the time you require it, or whether your eligibility is automatic/backdateable.
http://www.forsakringskassan.se/priv..._intyg/eu_kort
Also to keep on topic, an EHIC cannot be used if you are planning to give birth in an EEA country that you don't ordinarily reside in, but can be used in an emergency when you were not planning to give birth there.
As you have a lot to do with Sweden, I looked up the situation there and it seems to be the case that you can claim the costs back later even if you don't have the card. However, the full answer to your question isn't clear to me - i.e. whether it is necessary to have at least expressed an interest in obtaining the card prior to the time you require it, or whether your eligibility is automatic/backdateable.
http://www.forsakringskassan.se/priv..._intyg/eu_kort
Also to keep on topic, an EHIC cannot be used if you are planning to give birth in an EEA country that you don't ordinarily reside in, but can be used in an emergency when you were not planning to give birth there.
of UK persons going to say Italy, Malta or Spain and getting hit with unexpected medical needs while in the UK;
and also of Italians, Maltese or Spaniards vacationing in the UK and getting hit with unexpected medical needs.
Specifically unexpected early delivery of baby/babies or unexpected medical care for children/pregnant women.
It seems like the rules on conditions to pay for care abroad is national (patient's home country rules) when it comes to Europeans, but I'm curious if there is some reciprocal or uniform arrangement for what those conditions are or should be applicable across markerts where EHIC is used but has not been previously applied for by those who get hit by unexpected medical needs during a visit.
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Nov 23, 2015, 9:11 am
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However, the cost is charged to the social security system of the home state. You are therefore normally expected to carry your EHIC for that purpose (so that they can take your details and bill your home social security system), otherwise they do send you a bill for the cost. My understanding is that it was the case that A&E did not charge at all but have started to do so. I certainly know that my mother, who had an accident while visiting London, was billed for her medical treatment here. We did not check the details of the bill to see whether there was a distinction between the immediate A&E cost and the consequential hospital admission.
Nov 23, 2015, 10:42 am
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EU, EEA and perhaps some affiliated territories have persons eligible for EHIC. Norwegians with EHIC, for example.
Nov 26, 2015, 12:39 am
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Bumping the thread - did we ever hear about ReaJr being born/update?
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