mcgyver9

Hello again. Somebody of you said I should contact to embasy, So I did it and they didnt know nothing, but they write me to send revocation of deportation order email to Warsaw Embassy because there is immigration officers and they gonna help me. So I sent it there but then they told me sent a letter directly to Home office. So I sent there and did not get any answers, so I write it back to embassy and then they give me to difrent adress where I must sent my letters. So yesterday I get a lettter from Home Office and I dont understand, its looks like I can back, but Im not sure. So im gonna write a letter and I hope somebody gonna explain it to me.
''Thank you for your letter of 4 February 2015 applying for revocation of the deportation order made against you.
A deportation order was not issued against you on this occasion and you were administratively removed from the UK. There are currently no restrictions in place preventing you from visiting the United Kingdom.
As an EEA national you and your family will need to satisfy the immigration Officer on arrival that you qualify for entry to the United Kingdom by either exercising your rights under the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2006 as amended, or in a category within the Immigration Rules.
I should warn you however that if you should come to adverse notice in the future, the Secretary of State will be obliged to give further consideration to the question of whether you should be deported.''
Please explain it to me. Its important to me I will be grateful.

Ber2dca

I don't get how this topic at all pertains to flying other than that this appears to be the most convenient mode of transport to the UK? I wasn't aware Flyertalk is a "how to beat your country's immigration system" forum.

David-A

FT is about travel.
A big part of travel for many people is visa and/or imigration concerns.

A factor which can affect that is previous contact with a country, and/or questions about their policies.

Accordingly I don't think this is off-topic.

Further, if you look at the OPs post - they have asked how long they can not enter for, and if there is a legal barrier to their re-entry.

As such, I don't think it is fair to characterise it as: "how to beat your country's immigration system"

Some people have pointed out historic soft routes, but, to be honest that is something well known and everyone talks about (1) implementations, and (2) possible weaknesses in everything.
A part of good security is openly discussing weaknesses.

David-A

It looks like they have said:

(1) You were NOT 'deported'.
(2) So there is no legal barrier on you as an individual entering the UK, however - like anyone else:
(3) You need to qualify for entry. Assuming you are Lithuanian and have an EU passport/ID card, then this should be fine.
(4) They are saying IF you do something again which makes you undesirable (example: you comit another crime, etc) then they might decide next time to officially legally deport you - which would then present problems for returning again after that.

Markie

I would expect substantial scrutiny if/when you return to the UK.

mcgyver9

David-A thanks mate for your answer.
I thought same when I read it but I was not sure. Still I dont understand then why they send me back to my country if I can back any time. My cell mate said I gonna face ban for 5years.
Markie can you explain simple way, please. Not sure do i get it right.

Microwave

I think you may be better off seeking legal advice before coming back. You've been given advice that your removal was not a deportation subject to time limits, but I agree with Markie in that I would expect stricter scrutiny if you try to reenter at this point. According to this document (which may not pertain exactly to your situation but which lays out some of the procedures undertaken to determine whether deportation or administrative removal is more appropriate), it's very possible that your cell mate faced deportation while you were looking at administrative removal; proportionality is required so it all depends on individual circumstances.

mcgyver9

Microwave thanks for your opinion. My cell mate was english.(im not sure from where he get that information)
So you think they can removed me again?

lhrsfo

Perhaps, but as to the OP, he or she is taking but not giving. His/her only posts are in this thread and seem to be centred on obtaining free personal legal advice - not contributing in any way, despite the fact that it's been over a year since the first post. It's all about me, nothing about the wider community.

benberg2013

I always understood that Flyertalk is about sharing information and helping others - not be an exclusive club and only help those who contribute.

If someone finds themselves in a weird situation, and is asking for help, such as the OP, and maybe has nothing to contribute, I don't think its corrrect to complain about taking and not giving.

lhrsfo

Perhaps, but there's a certain track record if you read the back story.

Microwave

Sorry I misread, I thought your cell mate faced deportation, but it seems he was only giving you legal advice. Worth what you paid for it, I would say. Honestly I don't think anyone here can definitively answer your questions.

ajax

It is very likely that he doesn't know what he is talking about. You are best off consulting an immigration lawyer.

If you cannot do that, you *may* wish to consult a more specialist board, like www.immigrationboards.com. Someone may have already been in your situation.

I agree with you 100%.

I agree with this as well. The OP is best off consulting an immigration lawyer, perhaps a UK-based immigration charity, or someone with more specialised knowledge of immigration law.

Mizter T

I know someone who works in prison education. Lots of prisoners have all sorts of weird and wonderful interpretations of the law, many of which only have at best a tangential relationship to reality...

David-A

Plenty of people read but never register, or only register years after they started reading.

Additionally, maybe they have not yet seen something they feel they know the answer to and can then contribute. Personally I read for years before contributing. What prompted me to register? - there was finally something that I knew the right answer to, that nobody else seemed to have, so I could contribute. (There were plenty of other things that could have provoked this, but someone had always already answered by the time I read it.).

Finally, in many respects a question is also a contribution. Especially if it is not an unreasonable question and to the point.
This thread to me is far more desirable than the ones that crop up in the Europe section with people (effectivly) saying 'plan my vacation for me'.