Aircraft Changes for the HNL Routes?

 
Old Jun 19, 01, 3:40 pm
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Aircraft Changes for the HNL Routes?

My wife and I are scheduled to fly the STL-HNL route (and return) in mid-December. One thing that drew me to TW was the consensus that the F product on TW surpassed AA's. Does anyone's crystal ball allow them to predict when, if ever, TW's 767s on this route will be replaced with the less generous AA 763s?
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Old Jun 20, 01, 8:44 am
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The reconfiguration of TWA's aircraft to AA's More Room Throughout Coach will take place by October, with the narrowbody fleet done by August.

These changes will include a reconfiguration of the First Class cabin (at least on the narrowbodies) to match AA's standards. I haven't heard anything about the 767-300 configuration.

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Old Jun 20, 01, 12:44 pm
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Greg,

I just received my member guide from AAdvantage yesterday. In it under the TWA awards are a awards for First Class/Business Class Ticket and an Award for a Premium Class Ticket.

With this in mind I think you may well see PW 767-300s converted to 3 class service. With regards to the original question regarding Hawaii, I think that since TWA has so few 767-300s you'll likely see them all in the same configuration. I would guess that probably means 3 class service in order to support the CDG, LGW & CAI flights.

JMHO...I may well wind up being wrong.
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Old Jun 20, 01, 3:39 pm
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I did a check on ITN for seat maps on the HNL flights through the end of 2001.

Unlike the narrowbody aircraft which show revised seatmaps for both F and Y, the 767-300s only show a revised Y class cabin reflecting MRTC -- no change to the AA row numbering patterns.

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Old Jun 21, 01, 1:41 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by nyc6035:
With this in mind I think you may well see PW 767-300s converted to 3 class service. With regards to the original question regarding Hawaii, I think that since TWA has so few 767-300s you'll likely see them all in the same configuration. I would guess that probably means 3 class service in order to support the CDG, LGW & CAI flights.
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I don't think they'll be converted because it would cost too much money and the planes are different from AA configs. The TWA 767s have an extra door on the fuselage forward of the wing section, while AA doesn't. Just don't know how they would squeeze J in if they lost space from the door already.

They plan on retiring them anyway because of the different engines.
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Old Jun 21, 01, 9:41 am
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The 767-300s do not have an extra door, that is the 757-200.

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Old Jun 26, 01, 10:43 am
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GregL and JFKSFO. TWA has 2 different configurations of doors on their 767-300 A/C, but both models have 4 doors per side.

The major difference is if there are 2 smaller doors over the wing and 1 large door up front and another in the rear vs. 2 large doors in front of the wing and 2 large doors behind the wing.

Those with 2 small doors over the wing are 691LF, 634TW, 635TW, and 636TW.

The remainder of the 767-300 fleet have (or had) 2 large doors in front of and 2 lagre doors behind the wing. These are or were 638TW, 639TW, 640TW, 637TW, 632TW, and EICAL.

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Old Jun 27, 01, 9:50 am
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Doubt you will see them reconfigured beyond MRTC. AA ordered 15 new 767-300's to replace the TWA's and the airbus's flying to europe.
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