TK to announce IST-AU flights
Jul 24, 23, 7:23 am
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Jul 24, 23, 4:06 pm
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Some turbulence
AU AFR ----> Minister says government will review Turkish air rights
(maybe behind a paywall)
AU AFR ----> Minister says government will review Turkish air rights
(maybe behind a paywall)
Transport Minister Catherine King says she will review whether Turkish Airlines can add more flights to Australia, blaming the carrier for failing to submit a formal request before it was set to announced expanded services. The Australian Financial Review on Monday reported that Turkish Airlines chairman Ahmet Bolat had blamed “legal issues” with the government for calling off plans to outline the additional flights last week. Mr Bolat added that the airline, one of the world’s largest, wanted to fly 14 flights per week, or daily services, to both Sydney and Melbourne.
A spokeswoman for Ms King said Turkish Airlines was “already entitled to operate a total of up to seven services per week to Australia... under current bilateral arrangements, subject to meeting safety, security and licensing requirements”. “These critical regulatory processes will take many months to complete before services could commence to Australia,” she added.
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A spokeswoman for Ms King said Turkish Airlines was “already entitled to operate a total of up to seven services per week to Australia... under current bilateral arrangements, subject to meeting safety, security and licensing requirements”. “These critical regulatory processes will take many months to complete before services could commence to Australia,” she added.
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Jul 26, 23, 12:10 am
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Some turbulence
AU AFR ----> Minister says government will review Turkish air rights
(maybe behind a paywall)
AU AFR ----> Minister says government will review Turkish air rights
(maybe behind a paywall)
Last edited by TPJ; Jul 26, 23 at 12:15 am
Jul 26, 23, 6:45 am
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Jul 26, 23, 7:58 pm
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Jul 28, 23, 12:40 am
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Update: it does appear that TK has yet to file the final paperwork, although the exact nature of that paperwork is TBA, but a statement supplied to me by TK in response to recent comments by the relevant AU government minister's office says:
Italics are mine for emphasis, and indicate "the necessary licence applications" have not been made.
(This goes back to my earlier comment that "there are at least two sides to any story").
So far, we have received optimistic feedback and support on our mission of expanding our direct services to the Australian market.
Planning something as complex as this naturally takes time and comprehensive deliberation between many parties.
We are in the final stages of negotiations and look forward to making the necessary licence applications once we are ready to do so.
Planning something as complex as this naturally takes time and comprehensive deliberation between many parties.
We are in the final stages of negotiations and look forward to making the necessary licence applications once we are ready to do so.
(This goes back to my earlier comment that "there are at least two sides to any story").
Last edited by djsflynn; Aug 4, 23 at 7:07 am
Aug 4, 23, 7:04 am
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Is AU Transport Minister on QF payroll these days? First they rejected QR application for more traffic rights (despite the fact that during COVID QR was almost the only airline serving AU repatriating thousands of Oz citizens abandoned by their government back home) and now this...
Aug 5, 23, 12:17 am
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All very OT - so let's finish discussion on QR here...
Aug 5, 23, 12:30 am
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Friendly reminder - the reason for the airfare increase to ridiculous & astronomical levels was AU government action that introduced quotas of passengers who could fly to AU each day. Airlines were not able to fly full capacity so fares went up - we call it supply and demand, if memory serves... Airfares to countries that had no COVID travel restrictions like MX stayed at more or less normal levels.
All very OT - so let's finish discussion on QR here...
All very OT - so let's finish discussion on QR here...
Sep 26, 23, 10:16 pm
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Unfortunately recent changes in QF leadership did not change protectionist attitude of AU civil aviation authorities.
Unfortunately recent changes in QF leadership did not change protectionist attitude of AU civil aviation authorities.
Sep 29, 23, 6:44 pm
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Unfortunately recent changes in QF leadership did not change protectionist attitude of AU civil aviation authorities.
Unfortunately recent changes in QF leadership did not change protectionist attitude of AU civil aviation authorities.
Jul 24, 2023 – 6.42pm
Transport Minister Catherine King says she will review whether Turkish Airlines can add more flights to Australia, blaming the carrier for failing to submit a formal request before it was set to announced expanded services.
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A spokeswoman for Ms King said Turkish Airlines was “already entitled to operate a total of up to seven services per week to Australia... under current bilateral arrangements, subject to meeting safety, security and licensing requirements”. “These critical regulatory processes will take many months to complete before services could commence to Australia,” she added.
Transport Minister Catherine King says she will review whether Turkish Airlines can add more flights to Australia, blaming the carrier for failing to submit a formal request before it was set to announced expanded services.
<snip>
A spokeswoman for Ms King said Turkish Airlines was “already entitled to operate a total of up to seven services per week to Australia... under current bilateral arrangements, subject to meeting safety, security and licensing requirements”. “These critical regulatory processes will take many months to complete before services could commence to Australia,” she added.
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While sources close to Qantas indicated the airline did not oppose Turkish Airlines’ expansion, the federal government did not answer questions about why it is not trying to help lower the cost of flying for Australians.<snip>
While sources close to Qantas indicated the airline did not oppose Turkish Airlines’ expansion, the federal government did not answer questions about why it is not trying to help lower the cost of flying for Australians.<snip>
Nothing *political* stopping TK operating 7 flights now. They have the rights for 7, but are not using. They want 14 services (daily MEL & SYD?). Getting the *technical* requirements is another issue.
MEL airport would welcome flights. SYD airport has a 23:00-05:00/06:00 curfew and a political limit on aircraft movements per hour. Getting a slot at SYD is hard.
For selling tickets SIN<-->MEL-SYD TK need 5th freedom rights from Singapore.
