Business limited, business guaranteed
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 3
Business limited, business guaranteed
Why is one award called business limited and the other business guaranteed.
The limited is half the award miles.
Am I to assume if I book the limited, the booking is a confirmed booking.
Just concerned with the words guaranteed seat ward offer next to it.
Regards
Martin
The limited is half the award miles.
Am I to assume if I book the limited, the booking is a confirmed booking.
Just concerned with the words guaranteed seat ward offer next to it.
Regards
Martin
#2
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: TK E+, RJ S, AZ E
Posts: 1,868
Limited or guaranteed is about availability.
With limited award youll need an X class (for economy) or a I class (for business) availability. If there is youll be able to have a confirmed ticket. With seat guaranteed award, as long as theres a single seat in the cabin youll be able to make a confirmed reservation.
#4
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: New York, NY
Programs: TK Elite+ Delta Platinum Medallion
Posts: 108
I do not believe Business Limited exists any more. I used to get business limited JFK-ISt but when I try bunch of dates, near and far in advance, choice does not pop up any more.
#5
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: TK E+, RJ S, AZ E
Posts: 1,868
#6
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Istanbul
Programs: TK Elite (*G), SPG,Priority Pass
Posts: 131
Limited or guaranteed is about availability.
With limited award youll need an X class (for economy) or a I class (for business) availability. If there is youll be able to have a confirmed ticket. With seat guaranteed award, as long as theres a single seat in the cabin youll be able to make a confirmed reservation.
#7
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: DTW
Programs: TK E+, WY, Radisson R
Posts: 2,360
It's there (Business Limited Capacity), but it's scarce, particularly on North American segments.
I tried to redeem Canada-MCT for Thankgiving weekend (Nov), nothing from YYZ around the weekend, held one with "Pay and Fly" for YUL-IST-MCT. Just an hour before it expired I did a mock booking and there's no more Bus Limited, needless to say I pulled the trigger with miles even with a possibility of cancelling, can't beat the value of 47000 miles (NA to ME).
Perhaps it's a good thing now that TK has recovered and is doing well, so much so that they don't need to give away seats any more. OTOH it sucks trying to reap the benefits.
I tried to redeem Canada-MCT for Thankgiving weekend (Nov), nothing from YYZ around the weekend, held one with "Pay and Fly" for YUL-IST-MCT. Just an hour before it expired I did a mock booking and there's no more Bus Limited, needless to say I pulled the trigger with miles even with a possibility of cancelling, can't beat the value of 47000 miles (NA to ME).
Perhaps it's a good thing now that TK has recovered and is doing well, so much so that they don't need to give away seats any more. OTOH it sucks trying to reap the benefits.
#9
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 15,318
No and in fact the best way to get at least something is to look for both parts of your RT separately if you cannot find Business Limited as a RT as when you do a RT search, it will give you the full whack price even if one direction is available....
#10
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
Programs: Hilton, IHG - BA, GA, LH, QR, SV, TK
Posts: 16,963
Even booking two legs of a one-way trip separately can give interesting results. Though two tickets for one journey can create problems....
#11
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: DTW
Programs: TK E+, WY, Radisson R
Posts: 2,360
I went to the ticket office and had Biz award ticket like this, all flights and dates are all correct
TPE-IST
IST-CDG(128 hours at CDG)-IST-TPE
Will there be any issue flying during those dates? Obviously the check-in agent will need to realize that my father is flying all the way to Paris on the same journey.
Also found/learned something new about award ticketing this time:
1. Unlike revenue tickets, booking award tickets at offices doesn't incur surcharge, depending on which country, this can be up to $50 for revenue tickets but none for award tickets.
2. Any tickets issued by TK offices and travel agents would not require credit card validations, this is critical especially if you pay for someone else. If you book and use your miles and credit card online for someone else, have them unblocked by ticket office.
3. Miles overdraft - Elite and Elite+ are allowed up to 10K, previously someone reported 15K for E+. However, I can check this with online booking.
TPE-IST
IST-CDG(128 hours at CDG)-IST-TPE
Will there be any issue flying during those dates? Obviously the check-in agent will need to realize that my father is flying all the way to Paris on the same journey.
Also found/learned something new about award ticketing this time:
1. Unlike revenue tickets, booking award tickets at offices doesn't incur surcharge, depending on which country, this can be up to $50 for revenue tickets but none for award tickets.
2. Any tickets issued by TK offices and travel agents would not require credit card validations, this is critical especially if you pay for someone else. If you book and use your miles and credit card online for someone else, have them unblocked by ticket office.
3. Miles overdraft - Elite and Elite+ are allowed up to 10K, previously someone reported 15K for E+. However, I can check this with online booking.
#12
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: FCO
Posts: 498
I went to the ticket office and had Biz award ticket like this, all flights and dates are all correct
TPE-IST
IST-CDG(128 hours at CDG)-IST-TPE
Will there be any issue flying during those dates? Obviously the check-in agent will need to realize that my father is flying all the way to Paris on the same journey.
Also found/learned something new about award ticketing this time:
1. Unlike revenue tickets, booking award tickets at offices doesn't incur surcharge, depending on which country, this can be up to $50 for revenue tickets but none for award tickets.
2. Any tickets issued by TK offices and travel agents would not require credit card validations, this is critical especially if you pay for someone else. If you book and use your miles and credit card online for someone else, have them unblocked by ticket office.
3. Miles overdraft - Elite and Elite+ are allowed up to 10K, previously someone reported 15K for E+. However, I can check this with online booking.
TPE-IST
IST-CDG(128 hours at CDG)-IST-TPE
Will there be any issue flying during those dates? Obviously the check-in agent will need to realize that my father is flying all the way to Paris on the same journey.
Also found/learned something new about award ticketing this time:
1. Unlike revenue tickets, booking award tickets at offices doesn't incur surcharge, depending on which country, this can be up to $50 for revenue tickets but none for award tickets.
2. Any tickets issued by TK offices and travel agents would not require credit card validations, this is critical especially if you pay for someone else. If you book and use your miles and credit card online for someone else, have them unblocked by ticket office.
3. Miles overdraft - Elite and Elite+ are allowed up to 10K, previously someone reported 15K for E+. However, I can check this with online booking.
#13
Join Date: Jul 2017
Programs: KrisFlyer Gold, Marriott & SPG Plat, Hilton Gold, ShangriLa Jade, Enterprise Plat, Taj Gold
Posts: 3,271
Yes I just learnt that if you have a the outward booking in J and in the return in Y and you want to change the return to J after flying the first leg you can't do that. So it's best to book it separate.
Also, the two separate tickets costs ~7EUR less than the single ticket! Score!
Also, the two separate tickets costs ~7EUR less than the single ticket! Score!
#14
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: DTW
Programs: TK E+, WY, Radisson R
Posts: 2,360
My experience.
Online - systematic overdraft allowed up to 15K until recent system refresh
At office (Chicago) - only up to 10K.
Call Center - I avoid it like a plague, maybe I'm unlucky, but took me 4 agents to just confirm a simple involuntary schedule change and have PNR reissued.
Online - systematic overdraft allowed up to 15K until recent system refresh
At office (Chicago) - only up to 10K.
Call Center - I avoid it like a plague, maybe I'm unlucky, but took me 4 agents to just confirm a simple involuntary schedule change and have PNR reissued.