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Old Aug 27, 2016, 5:46 am
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Significant reductions in W16 (2016/17 winter operations)

Looks much more drastic than just a regular winter schedule

Istanbul Ataturk – Abuja Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly, which is identical to winter 2015/16 frequencies
Istanbul Ataturk – Ashgabat Reduce from 12 to 7 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Astrakhan Planned restoration of 3rd weekly flight is cancelled
Istanbul Ataturk – Baku Reduce from 4 to 3 daily
Istanbul Ataturk – Dammam Reduce from 10 to 9 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Doha Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Guangzhou Reduce from 7 to 6 weekly during selected periods from 01SEP16 to 31DEC16
Istanbul Ataturk – Kuwait City Reduce from 16 to 14 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Los Angeles Reduce from 11 to 7 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Najaf Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Nakchivan – Ganja – Istanbul Ataturk Reduce from 3 to 2 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – New York JFK Reduce from 3 to 2 daily. In addition, preliminary scheduling for summer 2017 season from 26MAR17 displays 4 weekly Boeing 777-300ER from 27MAR17 to 27MAY17, 10 weekly from 29MAY17.
Istanbul Ataturk – Sharm el Sheikh Previously not covered, TK will resume this route from 10SEP16, initially 4 times a week. Service increases to daily from 30OCT16

Following routes converted from year-round to summer-seasonal for 2016/17, meaning no operations from 30OCT16 to 25MAR17:
Istanbul Ataturk – Aqaba Previously planned 3 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Gassim Previously planned 4 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Osh Previously planned 3 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Tlemcen – Batna – Istanbul Ataturk Previously planned 2 weekly

Previously reported changes:
Istanbul Ataturk – Atlanta Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Hanoi – Ho Chi Minh City – Istanbul Ataturk Increase from 2 to 3 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Ho Chi Minh City – Hanoi – Istanbul Ataturk Increase from 3 to 4 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Jakarta Boeing 777-300ER replaces A330-200, 1 daily
Istanbul Ataturk – Johannesburg – Durban Northern winter service increases from 3 to 5 weekly, A330-300 service
Istanbul Ataturk – Taipei Taoyuan Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly


Istanbul Ataturk – Bari Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Basel/Mulhouse Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Bilbao Reduce from previously planned 4 to 2 weekly (5 weekly in summer)
Istanbul Ataturk – Birmingham Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly (12 weekly in W15)
Istanbul Ataturk – Bremen Reduce from 10 to 7 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Budapest Reduce from 3 to 2 daily
Istanbul Ataturk – Catania Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Cologne Reduce from 21 to 19 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Copenhagen Reduce from 3 to 2 daily
Istanbul Ataturk – Dublin Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Edinburgh Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Ekaterinburg Reduce from 4 to 2 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Frankfurt Reduce from 28 to 25 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Graz Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Hamburg Reduce from 4 to 3 daily
Istanbul Ataturk – Hanover Reduce from 3 to 2 daily
Istanbul Ataturk – Kazan Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Leipzig Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Lisbon Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – London Gatwick Reduce from 3 to 2 daily
Istanbul Ataturk – Luxembourg Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Lyon Reduce from 14 to 12 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Madrid Reduce from 3 to 2 daily
Istanbul Ataturk – Manchester Reduce from 19 to 14 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Marseille Reduce from 10 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Munich Reduce from 35 to 25 weekly (28 weekly in W15)
Istanbul Ataturk – Naples Reduce from 10 to 7 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Nice Reduce from 8 to 5 weekly (7 weekly in W15)
Istanbul Ataturk – Novosibirsk Reduce from 3 to 2 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Nuremberg Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Pristina Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Riga Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Rome Reduce from 4 to 3 daily
Istanbul Ataturk – St. Petersburg Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Salzburg Reduce from 8 to 4 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Sarajevo Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Sofia Reduce from 3 to 2 daily (18 weekly in W15 from 28DEC15)
Istanbul Ataturk – Stavropol Reduce from 3 to 2 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Stuttgart Reduce from 4 to 3 daily
Istanbul Ataturk – Tallinn Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Thessaloniki Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Toulouse Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Valencia Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Vilnius Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Zagreb Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Zaporizhia Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Barcelona Reduce from 6 to 4 weekly
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Dusseldorf Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly (9 weekly in W15)
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Frankfurt Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly (9 weekly in W15)
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – London Gatwick Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Milan Malpensa Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Munich Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly (11 weekly in W15)
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Rome Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Vienna Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly

Following routes sees frequency reduction, however the revised frequency is identical to W15 season:
Istanbul Ataturk – Barcelona Reduce from 25 to 21 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Kiev Borispil Reduce from 14 to 13 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Malta Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Paris CDG Reduce from 5 to 4 daily
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Amsterdam Increase from 7 to 9 weekly
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Cologne Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly

Following routes sees frequency reduction, however the revised frequency remains an overall increase when compared to W15:
Ankara – Jeddah Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly (No operation in W15)
Ankara – Madinah Reduce from 7 to 3 weekly (No operation in W15)
Istanbul Ataturk – Porto Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly (4 weekly in W15)
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Berlin Tegel Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly (No operation in W15)
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Brussels Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly (No operation in W15)

Following routes converted from year-round to summer-seasonal for 2016/17, meaning no operations from 30OCT16 to 25MAR17 (frequency listed below is based on schedule filing as of 19AUG16):
Ankara – Berlin Tegel Previously planned 2 weekly
Ankara – Frankfurt Previously planned 3 weekly
Ankara – Vienna Previously planned 2 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Bordeaux Previously planned 4 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Friedrichshafen Previously planned 7 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Genoa Previously planned 3 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Ivano-Frankivsk Previously planned 7 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden Previously planned 4 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Muenster Previously planned 4 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Pisa Previously planned 5 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Rotterdam Previously planned 7 weekly
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Baku Previously planned 7 weekly
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Erbil Previously planned 4 weekly
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Venice Previously planned 4 weekly

Source
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...as-of-27aug16/
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...as-of-27aug16/
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Old Aug 28, 2016, 1:03 pm
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glad houston is staying daily

and i always wondered how'd they swing a daily atlanta and that many daily lax flights

cpt-ist will be nonstop this southern summer?

what are they doing with all these ac?
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Old Aug 28, 2016, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by dabee69
Looks much more drastic than just a regular winter schedule
Maybe that's because TK is expecting to carry 9m fewer pax this year.

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Old Aug 28, 2016, 1:29 pm
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Too bad on the IST-AQJ one, they had just recently advertised a promotion of 280€ for a r/t from many European cities and it could have been nice to try it out, "winter" is the best time in Aqaba weather wise...
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 9:14 pm
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There are more coming... I learned the hard way-- from a schedule change -- that they are cutting back IST-IAH from 7 to 5 weekly for the winter season. I didn't see this one in the list above. They're doing away with the MW flights to/from IAH.

This makes a trip that I've already purchased for March a bit awkward... Going to have to reduce things by a day as I was planing to return home on Monday. I suspect that they're not to apt to let me change the origin without a reprice.
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 9:30 pm
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There are more coming... I learned the hard way-- from a schedule change -- that they are cutting back IST-IAH from 7 to 5 weekly for the winter season. I didn't see this one in the list above. They're doing away with the MW flights to/from IAH.
Additional schedule changes appeared on Monday.

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Old Aug 29, 2016, 10:20 pm
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Osaka was reduced. Learned the hard way, too... My booking for December was fortunately not ticketed yet. I'm afraid it will have to be Air France now. Yikes.

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Old Aug 29, 2016, 11:43 pm
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Further adjustments as per airlineroute:

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...as-of-30aug16/

Istanbul Ataturk – Boston Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly, A330-300 service
Istanbul Ataturk – Houston Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly, 777-300ER service
Istanbul Ataturk – Islamabad Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly, A330-200 service
Istanbul Ataturk – Kermanshah – Ahwaz – Istanbul Ataturk 2 weekly service converts to summer-only operation (TK continues to operate 2 weekly flights to Ahwaz)
Istanbul Ataturk – Miami Reduce from 7 to 6 weekly, 777-300ER service
Istanbul Ataturk – Osaka Kansai Reduce from 5 to 4 weekly, A330-200 service
Istanbul Ataturk – Sao Paulo Guarulhos – Buenos Aires Ezeiza Reduce from 7 to 5 weekly, 777-300ER service

Following changes were omitted from the report filed on 27AUG16:
Istanbul Ataturk – Johannesburg – Maputo Northern winter service increases from 4 to 5 weekly, A330-300 service
Istanbul Ataturk – Seoul Incheon 03NOV16 – 24DEC16 Reduce from 11 to 10 weekly
Istanbul Ataturk – Tokyo Narita 777-300ER continues to operate on daily basis (A330 in W15)
Istanbul Ataturk – Washington Dulles Service operates 7 weekly, identical to W15. (S16 frequency is 10 weekly, however previously filed as seasonal increase)
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Old Aug 30, 2016, 4:37 am
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Copenhagen 3 to 2 daily flights? When I fly CPH-IST and vice versa it's always overfilled.
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Old Aug 30, 2016, 6:14 am
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Yeah, I'm very surprised too about the CPH reductions. It does not seem logic to cut away the early morning departure to IST and the evening flight to CPH. As stated before, there is no longer a connction to CPH for the longhaul flights arriving IST in the afternoon/early evening - last flight of the day to CPH is at 3PM

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Old Aug 30, 2016, 7:14 am
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Well it appears that the we know how they are going to respond to the giant losses for the first part of this year.... dramatic cuts.
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Old Aug 30, 2016, 7:43 am
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Sad but understandable changes I guess...
I am currently on TK31 IST-ATL and we are only 3 pax in J for 49 seats... Y loads were not bad though.
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Old Aug 30, 2016, 9:00 am
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Sad but understandable changes I guess...
I am currently on TK31 IST-ATL and we are only 3 pax in J for 49 seats... Y loads were not bad though.
Sadly airlines make money upfront, the back is just small change.
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Old Aug 30, 2016, 11:09 am
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So overall we are taking about a seasonal reduction of about 190 flights per week? Or about 27 flights per day? And when compared to W15 or frequencies that never really started), its more like 150, or about 21 flights per day, while still maintaining all their destinations? Overall pretty good I must say, all things considered.
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Old Aug 30, 2016, 2:42 pm
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So overall we are taking about a seasonal reduction of about 190 flights per week? Or about 27 flights per day? And when compared to W15 or frequencies that never really started), its more like 150, or about 21 flights per day, while still maintaining all their destinations? Overall pretty good I must say, all things considered.
Comparison is based on W16 vs W15.
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