mecabq

Is there any chance that the web site is wrong? Does anyone have first-hand experience with this?

I guess I could take a chance and try to credit to TK, and if they deny it, then credit to UA.

starflyergold

Nope, that's correct. LH P earns nothing. Even with LH M&M this only earns 100%.

I would not recommend the latter, as you are technically crediting miles (even with zero earning) to TK. Getting that changed retrospectively may cause headaches.

whlinder

Have never flown TK before and am considering TK for a trip in November in business class. Trip is IAD-NCE, which would require an overnight in IST in each direction. From reading on here and the TK website I think I have figured out that TK will put me up in a hotel overnight each way. I have never been to IST before and would love to take the chance to be a tourist there, if only for a few hours.

Questions- How far is the hotel they usually use from interesting sites & dining in IST? Itinerary would be land at roughly 1700, depart 1100 +1 or 1730 +1 if I can swing that when ticketing, then for return land at 1700, depart 1330 +1.
Is that enough time to do/see anything?

IAD-IST seems to be an A343 most of the time which means angled lie flat? And A333 = good but A332 = bad? But from reading on here equipment swaps are frequent so I wouldn't even know for sure until close to departure I guess.

IST-NCE is 737/A320 mix, but J seats are all the same (2x2), similar to U.S. domestic First class?

I'm *A Gold through Aegean and that IST lounge looks pretty sweet. I'd lose out on a handful of miles since TK earns 150% vs. 200% for J on other *A carriers despite the longer trip. But I might be willing to live with that if I can see a bit of IST and the onboard product is comparable to LH/UA/AF/BA (next cheapest J class right now).

mecabq

I have taken the IAD flight twice and found it excellent. It was on the A343 both times, which is certainly not as nice as their B777, but it's one of the best angled-flat seats in the business -- better than LH, for example, and much better than OS, AF, or TG in my opinion. Plus the food, entertainment, and service are pretty good. And you have the Virgin Atlantic lounge at IAD. I would not hesitate to book this.

I don't know what hotel they use, but if it's anywhere near the airport, then it's not too convenient for nightlife. You would have to take a taxi, or perhaps subway, to either the old city or new. There are some local neighborhoods near the airport (e.g., Atakoy, or the area near the Polat Renaissance Hotel) where you can have dinner, etc., but if you're a first-time visitor, I would suggest something more interesting. The rush-hour traffic, especially when you land inbound, can be a headache, but if you're patient, you can get into the city.

The NCE flight is actually worse than domestic U.S. F. It's basically economy seating, with perhaps a small amount more pitch and the middle seat blocked (hence the somewhat deceiving 2x2 configuration), like pretty much all European airlines short-haul biz.

As much as I love TK, the IST lounge, and Istanbul, given the prospect of three-hour flights, you might be better off just taking LH or AF.

nacho

I'll see it as mileage run - those extra miles you fly do give you mileage which can be nice if you need them to requalify *A Gold.

whlinder

Thanks. My last TATL J class was LH to MUC (old J) and back from FRA (new J). Old seats were OK but I slept way better in the new J fully flat. Haven't been to the VS lounge at IAD before so would be curious to compare to the LH lounge.

Yuck, the seat map shows 2x2 on thy.com for NCE-IST, though that is shorter than MUC-LIS and LIS-FRA which I survived on TP/LH short-haul biz. I'd certainly be much more willing to go this route if I knew I was getting real 2x2 seats on the shorter legs.

moeser

It always shows 2x2.

Hence the letters. A-C , D-F means old J most probably blocked middle seat,no AVOD

A-B , E-F usually means new Sky Cabin,CC style J leather seat &b AVOD.
Imho the best cont.J product currently.

mecabq

I was just about to post this, in response to a quote in another thread stating that TK operates 738's with proper business class. I didn't know that. Unlikely that they'd be on a leisure route like NCE, but worth a check.

moeser

Yes.I was on the same route.

738 with new J both ways
Although the seat isn't comfortable for sleeping
Recline could be much better !

Also A 321 with the new cabin on the routes to Scandinavia & Finland

mecabq

They run a lot of seemingly brand-new A321 and A320 on some Gulf routes. These are nice aircraft. Similar seat to U.S. domestic first class. Great news that they are refitting some 737s (or are these new too?)

On my last flight from DOH, I had a great A321. They even gave a mini amenity kit in Y. The IFE is the same system as wide-bodies, but with fewer selections. I also observed that in the bulkhead rows (row 5 I think), they screens are affixed to the bulkhead, as opposed to the pull-up style. This is a slight benefit, as you don't have to fiddle with the screen to move out of the seat, and you can enjoy the entertainment gate-to-gate.

moeser

The IFE is definitely in the armrest.I had 1E.
The bulkhead monitor is for flight info.

Both A32x & 738 are coming with 4 rows in J.Don't know about the
739 yet.

mecabq

I only observed the Y bulkhead, and I am pretty sure that the wall-mounted screen was for IFE . . . it had the entertainment system header page on when we sat down, though I admittedly didn't notice it after that. Plus there was one screen per seat (a row of three on the bulkhead), which would be illogical if it were for flight information. This was on the DOH-IST sector on 07/12, so was an A321.

moeser

Misunderstanding.

I thought you're referring to bulkhead J

wifey99999999

Does anyone know anything about the A330-200 with 4 rows of 2x2x2 (AB-DE-JK) configuration? It's coded as "3GF" on the seat selection on TK website... I am not sure what '3GF" means....

geirfugl

I have read(in the milage run trhread) that TK credits miles from a to z,that is from origin to destination on multi segment tickets,as a sort of theoretical direct flighrather than by flown segments. Is this correct?,I have only used TK on flights to IST and ADB,but I have always had the extra miles for IST-ADB credited separately and realy not bothered abouth the few miles for the ADB flight,on a long haul with a connection in IST it would ofcs be a different story. I have booked 2 CAI-IST-KUL C class tickets,the second one primarily to become E+,this would seriously screw up my plan,I do understand that since TK have very competitive prices for long haul conecting in IST it might be hard to credit full miles,-but I think it would be moore honest to reduce the acrual for certain booking clases than to do this. Another TK swindle,-like their award awailability and credit card (which only credits fully for very few transactions)!!!