Is Global Entry worthwhile?
#3406
Join Date: May 2011
Location: San Antonio, TX
Programs: AA EXP, DL Silver, Global Entry
Posts: 1,863
I read somewhere in this thread that an incoming international flight disables TSApre on a connecting flight. Is that still the case?
My last BPs always indicated TSApre for the connecting flight (departing from IAD), but lack of TSApre at IAD midfield I could never test it...
My last BPs always indicated TSApre for the connecting flight (departing from IAD), but lack of TSApre at IAD midfield I could never test it...
#3407
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northeast Kansas | Colorado Native
Programs: Amex Gold/Plat, UA *G, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Gold, NEXUS, TSA Disparager Unobtanium
Posts: 21,603
Bonus question: I read somewhere in this thread that an incoming international flight disables TSApre on a connecting flight. Is that still the case?
My last BPs always indicated TSApre for the connecting flight (departing from IAD), but lack of TSApre at IAD midfield I could never test it...
My last BPs always indicated TSApre for the connecting flight (departing from IAD), but lack of TSApre at IAD midfield I could never test it...
#3409
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SJC
Programs: AA, AS, Marriott
Posts: 6,059
I haven't entered the US at ORD for about a year now.
Do they have a dedicated GE-exit at the customs meanwhile? How's the situation since the APC are open to ESTA-travellers?
Although I have with 1:45h enough time to make my connection, I'm a bit worried that I'll spend more time at the customs than anywhere else.
Bonus question: I read somewhere in this thread that an incoming international flight disables TSApre on a connecting flight. Is that still the case?
My last BPs always indicated TSApre for the connecting flight (departing from IAD), but lack of TSApre at IAD midfield I could never test it...
Do they have a dedicated GE-exit at the customs meanwhile? How's the situation since the APC are open to ESTA-travellers?
Although I have with 1:45h enough time to make my connection, I'm a bit worried that I'll spend more time at the customs than anywhere else.
Bonus question: I read somewhere in this thread that an incoming international flight disables TSApre on a connecting flight. Is that still the case?
My last BPs always indicated TSApre for the connecting flight (departing from IAD), but lack of TSApre at IAD midfield I could never test it...
#3410
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA
Programs: Delta DM / 1M, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hertz PC, Emerald Club Exec
Posts: 500
When I was traveling back from Sydney last week on Delta I printed my boarding passes at the hotel before heading to the airport. They all printed with "TSA Precheck". When I got to the airport and checked my bag, they gave me new copies of the boarding passes. None of them indicated "TSA Precheck". They did give me a slip of paper which allowed to go through the expedited lines in Sydney with reduced screening requirements.
The lack of the precheck label wouldn't have been a big deal except that one has to go through security again at LAX before moving on to connecting flights. I ended up digging out my original boarding passes and using those to gain entry to the Precheck line.
ETA: I should have noted that I have GE.
The lack of the precheck label wouldn't have been a big deal except that one has to go through security again at LAX before moving on to connecting flights. I ended up digging out my original boarding passes and using those to gain entry to the Precheck line.
ETA: I should have noted that I have GE.
Last edited by nichelle; Sep 13, 2014 at 10:47 pm
#3411
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Programs: United MileagePlus Silver, Nexus, Global Entry
Posts: 8,798
Got the three beeps anyway.
...so you're non-"Pre✓ed" boarding pass might have worked when TSA scanned it.
#3412
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA
Programs: Delta DM / 1M, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hertz PC, Emerald Club Exec
Posts: 500
I have GE, Air Canada recently joined the Pre✓ program. They require a boarding pass reprint at an airport to get the logo, and on my last trip I was too lazy to do it so I just headed to security (lines were short).
Got the three beeps anyway.
...so you're non-"Pre✓ed" boarding pass might have worked when TSA scanned it.
Got the three beeps anyway.
...so you're non-"Pre✓ed" boarding pass might have worked when TSA scanned it.
#3413
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 7
Just got approved for GE today in Long Beach Interviewer was cool. I had an assault charge that was dismissed in 2009 show up on their screen, but I was ready for it. I also mentioned some drug thing I had in 1998 but I couldn't find info on that when I went searching for it myself, and it didn't show up on their screen either.
Now to get my wife to do it !
Now to get my wife to do it !
#3414
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 12
Just got approved for GE today in Long Beach Interviewer was cool. I had an assault charge that was dismissed in 2009 show up on their screen, but I was ready for it. I also mentioned some drug thing I had in 1998 but I couldn't find info on that when I went searching for it myself, and it didn't show up on their screen either.
Now to get my wife to do it !
Now to get my wife to do it !
Actual use, 2 flights, one in January and one this past week. Both times got a Black X and had to go to secondary screening, where they make you sit and wit an unknown amount of time, while they check everything out. Most recently for me was a 20 minute wait and then they tell me it is because I have a "criminal history".
25 years of international travel, never an issue entering the US, now that I am an approved GE and use the process, I now take 20-30 minutes longer to get out of the airport and am treated like a criminal for a DUI I can barley remember it was so long ago.
I won't be using it again and will go back to process of running to passport control to be first in line and out of the airport without incident in 15 minutes. No more Kiosk for me, then X Mark, then criminal treatment.
#3415
Join Date: May 2011
Location: San Antonio, TX
Programs: AA EXP, DL Silver, Global Entry
Posts: 1,863
I would warn you that actually using the GE can result in a very annoying experience. I had a DUI on my record from almost 25 years ago. I disclosed it, showed up on screen during interview and seemed not to be an issue. Received approval with days and now have GE.
Actual use, 2 flights, one in January and one this past week. Both times got a Black X and had to go to secondary screening, where they make you sit and wit an unknown amount of time, while they check everything out. Most recently for me was a 20 minute wait and then they tell me it is because I have a "criminal history".
25 years of international travel, never an issue entering the US, now that I am an approved GE and use the process, I now take 20-30 minutes longer to get out of the airport and am treated like a criminal for a DUI I can barley remember it was so long ago.
I won't be using it again and will go back to process of running to passport control to be first in line and out of the airport without incident in 15 minutes. No more Kiosk for me, then X Mark, then criminal treatment.
Actual use, 2 flights, one in January and one this past week. Both times got a Black X and had to go to secondary screening, where they make you sit and wit an unknown amount of time, while they check everything out. Most recently for me was a 20 minute wait and then they tell me it is because I have a "criminal history".
25 years of international travel, never an issue entering the US, now that I am an approved GE and use the process, I now take 20-30 minutes longer to get out of the airport and am treated like a criminal for a DUI I can barley remember it was so long ago.
I won't be using it again and will go back to process of running to passport control to be first in line and out of the airport without incident in 15 minutes. No more Kiosk for me, then X Mark, then criminal treatment.
#3416
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 406
I would warn you that actually using the GE can result in a very annoying experience. I had a DUI on my record from almost 25 years ago. I disclosed it, showed up on screen during interview and seemed not to be an issue. Received approval with days and now have GE.
Actual use, 2 flights, one in January and one this past week. Both times got a Black X and had to go to secondary screening, where they make you sit and wit an unknown amount of time, while they check everything out. Most recently for me was a 20 minute wait and then they tell me it is because I have a "criminal history".
25 years of international travel, never an issue entering the US, now that I am an approved GE and use the process, I now take 20-30 minutes longer to get out of the airport and am treated like a criminal for a DUI I can barley remember it was so long ago.
I won't be using it again and will go back to process of running to passport control to be first in line and out of the airport without incident in 15 minutes. No more Kiosk for me, then X Mark, then criminal treatment.
Actual use, 2 flights, one in January and one this past week. Both times got a Black X and had to go to secondary screening, where they make you sit and wit an unknown amount of time, while they check everything out. Most recently for me was a 20 minute wait and then they tell me it is because I have a "criminal history".
25 years of international travel, never an issue entering the US, now that I am an approved GE and use the process, I now take 20-30 minutes longer to get out of the airport and am treated like a criminal for a DUI I can barley remember it was so long ago.
I won't be using it again and will go back to process of running to passport control to be first in line and out of the airport without incident in 15 minutes. No more Kiosk for me, then X Mark, then criminal treatment.
#3417
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 12
I filed a complaint with CBP outlining the issue, let's see if that helps. Probably just land me on a list to get strip searched now...
#3418
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Paris, Chicago, Rome, London, St John
Programs: DeltaPrivateJet, Ritz PP, Delta 4 million miler - Flying Colonel; AA Exec Plat (3 million + USAir)
Posts: 796
A friend had the same problem with the BLACK X.
What he did was when the machine gave it, he went to front of line with regular form and did not use the machine's - just as you do if the machine has problems recognizing your fingerprints etc. But he called them and they told him why (DWY) and how to have it removed.
What he did was when the machine gave it, he went to front of line with regular form and did not use the machine's - just as you do if the machine has problems recognizing your fingerprints etc. But he called them and they told him why (DWY) and how to have it removed.
#3419
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 12
A friend had the same problem with the BLACK X.
What he did was when the machine gave it, he went to front of line with regular form and did not use the machine's - just as you do if the machine has problems recognizing your fingerprints etc. But he called them and they told him why (DWY) and how to have it removed.
What he did was when the machine gave it, he went to front of line with regular form and did not use the machine's - just as you do if the machine has problems recognizing your fingerprints etc. But he called them and they told him why (DWY) and how to have it removed.
#3420
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: A number, but no status no more
Posts: 3,049
I would just wonder if the machine marks you with a X won't they try to find you if you don't go through secondary screening? Would show up in the system that you got the X but then disappeared. Might be worse because if the pull GE you lose TSA PC also and you might end up on a list for secondary screening always.
If you get the X for smudged fingerprints, you just go to a regular line and they clear you in.
I would think that in this case, by going through regular immigration, your record still shows you have passed the proper inspection. But that would be for the DHS to confirm ....
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