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Time to renew GE/license/passport in NY. What order?

Old Jul 28, 20, 2:52 pm
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Time to renew GE/license/passport in NY. What order?

My license and Global Entry expired last month. The license has a courtesy extension since the offices are closed for renewals. I assume I have to start from scratch for Global Entry as a New Yorker -- tried to renew in February; the application (of course) got canceled; now it's expired.

My passport expires in January 2022, but since I can't imagine going abroad for the next five months, I might as well renew now and join the moderately unthinkable current backlog as opposed to waiting for the unbelievably unthinkable backlog when travel picks up next year.

I figure I should apply for Global Entry now (using my current passport) and then send in the passport renewal immediately after. Any drawbacks to that? Are the Global Entry people likely to balk if, in ten months, they see that the passport has been replaced?

Then I can do the license separately, at my leisure (though I wonder if I can rent a car with a technically expired license whose validity has been extended by executive order). I can get an enhanced license in New York but for the same price I figure I might as well get a passport card instead, which will be valid longer.

Any reason to do things in a different order?

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Old Jul 28, 20, 3:21 pm
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What order you do things won't matter. Just use the occasion to make certain that the identifying information is exactly the same on all three documents.

Many states provide a printable extension order for DL's which can accompany your DL when you need your license out-of-state and it is past date, but not expired as the result of an administrative extension. Check the NY website for such a letter, print one and keep it with your DL.
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Old Jul 28, 20, 10:25 pm
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Points well taken about the matching information and the accompanying print-out. Thanks!

This seems to be the relevant order for New York: https://dmv.ny.gov/press-release/press-release-03-21-20

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Old Jul 31, 20, 1:27 am
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Have you recently seen an eye doctor? Last 6 months or so? Get the form filled out and renew by mail.
Edited to add I meant to suggest renewing online

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Old Jul 31, 20, 7:39 am
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Have you recently seen an eye doctor? Last 6 months or so? Get the form filled out and renew by mail.
I haven't (never have) but good idea, thanks. Also, to upgrade to a Real ID (not necessary if I have a passport or passport card, I know, but I might as well) I have to visit the DMV in person anyway.

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Old Jul 31, 20, 10:54 am
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I haven't (never have) but good idea, thanks. Also, to upgrade to a Real ID (not necessary if I have a passport or passport card, I know, but I might as well) I have to visit the DMV in person anyway.



This policy is from February and was rescinded last week.
DMV is going to be a real zoo in general. Real ID is going to be a real pain. Get an eye exam in a AAA office, if you're a member, or at a participating examiner and renew online. You'll save hours.

https://dmv.ny.gov/vision-registry-locator
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Old Jul 31, 20, 5:55 pm
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DMV is going to be a real zoo in general. Real ID is going to be a real pain. Get an eye exam in a AAA office, if you're a member, or at a participating examiner and renew online. You'll save hours.

https://dmv.ny.gov/vision-registry-locator
Thanks...good thinking!

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Old Aug 1, 20, 7:47 am
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My passport expires in January 2022, but since I can't imagine going abroad for the next five months, I might as well renew now and join the moderately unthinkable . Any drawbacks to that? Are the Global Entry people likely to balk if, in ten months, they see that the passport has been replaced?



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I missed this. After your passport is renewed you log in and update your info with global entry. I dont know the ramifications if GE realizes your passport expired months ago and updated passport info was never provided. I assume that's covered in the terms and conditions that are never read
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Old Aug 1, 20, 12:06 pm
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I missed this. After your passport is renewed you log in and update your info with global entry. I dont know the ramifications if GE realizes your passport expired months ago and updated passport info was never provided. I assume that's covered in the terms and conditions that are never read
Thanks. The site says to give the new passport information at the interview as there's no way to update it on a pending application -- we'll see what happens in practice. I'm almost certain to get the passport before my conditional approval.

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Old Aug 1, 20, 2:23 pm
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Thanks. The site says to give the new passport information at the interview as there's no way to update it on a pending application -- we'll see what happens in practice. I'm almost certain to get the passport before my conditional approval.

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