vintagepilot

Yes, excellent - we might just make it!

I rather rashly (as it turned out) declined an opportunity for an interview at JFK in January, thinking we would both do it together during our June trip .......

Mr. Vker

Good news...I'll post this below...but I asked in the Trusted Travelers thread and found out we are good. So no response needed-just some experience info trying to interview on arrival.

Grace Period Question,....

My GE was renewed in March without need for an interview. My wife's required an interview-which we have not been able to do. We tried in Aruba preclearane-there system was down. Today in DFW, they refused to do it-saying the email I have been getting about doing on return from international trip at DFW that they would. One guy told my wife. "You'll be fine without GE..." I didn't like that. Her's expires Monday.

So she's conditionally approved for renewal pending interview. Does she get an extra year of use due to Covid. I think, so, but am confused as its possible to read that since the ball is in our court it could be our issue????

Anyone know the answer. (I did her application Jan 2019 and set a March interview to match mine...)

italdesign

I asked this in another thread but have some follow up questions.

The question: My GE expired Dec 2019. I filed for renewal before then. It was conditionally approved Jan 2020. I guess now I have 2 years, or Jan 2022, to get final approval. Do I still get GE benefit until Jan 2022 (or final approval), or no b/c my GE already expired?

TWA884

You received the correct answer in the other thread where you asked this question, as long as you applied for renewal before the expiration date of your membership, you will continue to receive all Trusted Traveler Program benefits pending the final approval of your renewal application.

seawolf

Do you have a reference for this? Just did NEXUS renew. Site indicated

NEXUS expires SEP 2021. Application conditionally approved JAN 2021.

I’m interpreting NEXUS benefits will be extended to SEP 2022 (1 year grace) while application is active for interview until JAN 2023 (730 days). There is a gap in NEXUS benefits between OCT 2022 to JAN 2023.

In theory you only get no lapse in benefits if your submit a renewal the day you become eligible to submit a renewal (1 year prior to expiration) and it is conditionally approved quickly otherwise there is a risk of a lapse in benefits.

TWA884

Each and every previous time that the deadline to complete the enrollment interview was extended due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the Trusted Traveler Program benefits of members who applied for renewal before their current membership expired were extended to match the new deadline to complete the enrollment process. That was true when the deadline was extended to a year and later to eighteen months.

Here is the relevant language from the CBP national media release dated July 1, 2020, announcing the 18 months extension:The CBP has not been good keeping their website and, in some cases, email communications to reflect the up to date benefit extensions. Some pages on the CBP site still incorrectly show that the extension is valid for only six months or a year. Other CBP web pages were eventually updated to reflect the length of the benefit extension which matches the revised deadline to complete the enrollment interview, most recently with the extension of eighteen months.

Based upon the history of the benefits being extended in the past year to match the extended deadlines to complete the enrollment process, I am absolutely certain that the benefits extension is currently up to 18 months, pending the final approval of renewal applications, and am confident that in actuality it is two years.

seawolf

It does appears there's no quality control on information being put out by CBP's and TTP site. Let's assume the July 2020 press release of 18 months is still in effect until otherwise.

As an example, an applicant's current TTP expires JAN 31,2021, their "pre-expiration renewal window" starts JAN 31, 2020 (1 year prior).

If they renew at the start of the "pre-expiration renewal window" on JAN 31, 2020 and obtain conditional approval 1 day after, their application will be active until FEB 1, 2022 for interview. An 12 or 18 month grace period on the current membership will provide benefits covering the conditionally approved period.

On the other hand, if they renew near the tail end of the "pre-expiration renewal window" (eg JAN 1, 2021) and obtain conditional approval 1 day after, then the application will be active until JAN 2, 2023 for interview. An 12 or 18 month grace period on the current membership will provide benefits only up to JAN 31, 2022 or JULY 31, 2022. This will leave a gap in benefit as the renewal application is valid until 2023 but membership grace period ended 6 to 12 months ago.

Under current published guidance, renew as early as possible. While 1 business day decision on conditional approval is possible as per data points, there are also various data points pointing to extended processing times just to get conditional approval.

TWA884

The 18 months extension of the Trusted Traveler Program benefits of members who apply for renewal before their current membership expires is in effect; there is no reason to assume otherwise.

It was first announced in the April 22, 2020 CBP press release, which you linked in this thread on the date that it was issued. It was also mentioned in CBP press releases which were issued on May 26, 2020, July 1, 2020 and July 20, 2020, and in a CBP article published on July 21, 2020.

If you have a link to a source that the 18 months benefits extension is no longer in effect, please post it.

seawolf

After an application is conditionally approved at this moment, a verbiage of text is displayed on TTP site that the grace period is 1 year. For a typical user, they would be led to believe that grace is 1 year unless they go a search on the web.

12 vs. 18 month grace period is not really the issue here. Even with an 18 month grace, prior comments made on this and other threads that as long as renewal is submitted prior to expiration, there will be no lapse in benefit is not entirely accurate as it depends on when conditional approval is obtained. It might have been true at some point last year but doesn’t seem to be entirely accurate absent a press release that links grace period with renewal application together.

No lapse only if conditionally approved during the first half of the 1 year pre-expiration renewal period. Potential lapse if conditionally approved during the later half of the window. Granted applicant can make an effort to get an interview earlier to avoid the potential lapse.

TWA884

Based upon the history of the Trusted Travelers benefits extensions being linked to the extension, due to the pandemic, of the enrollment interviews completion deadlines, I disagree with your interpretation.

Our members can form their own opinions based upon the available information in this thread and elsewhere.

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TWA884

From the Nexus Renewal Information and Processing Timelines thread:

seawolf

NEXUS renewal applications which are conditionally approved now show the following.
It was listed as 12 months back in January 2021.

txviking

Yep, I saw that. Looks like their backlog has grown worse. I'm a bit worried that I don't have conditional approval yet, and I am not sure if I can use it until I get to a NEXUS office to update my citizenship (I've become a US citizen, but still retain my original Norwegian citizenship.)

But I suppose it doesn't matter at the moment, since the border with Canada is currently closed for most travelers, as are all the NEXUS offices. I'll need to wait for those to reopen before I can do any travel to Canada with or without NEXUS.

adventures_await

My wife was supposed to do her Global Entry interview by last November but Covid shut interviews down. She checked last month and was able to get an interview at SFO. She was told that Global Entry interviews were extended to 700 days from application approval because of Covid. If you have been unable to get an interview and feared the deadline had passed check again.

txviking

The status is unchanged, but the grace period appears to have grown again: