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GE abuse?
I was explaining a friend of mine about how she can use her new GE status. One thing struck me.. what is stopping non-GE folks from engaging in a charade of scanning their passports in the GE kiosk, claiming that passport is not scanning and getting head of line privilege (for the immigrant line)? The only reason I can think of is to avoid lying to a government official and the penalties that go with this lying.. |
I just graduated from divinity college, so I could lecture you for hours on the personal thought and ethical procedures we hope would be part of one's pattern of behaviour.
Physically, there is a chance that their passport could be entered into a computer and they would be ejected from the line. You could also be flagged for future problems. I don't know legally one's responsibilities. I could assume, as with most things, it could be construed as fraud. Even if they got away with it, I'd hope they would have a sense of personal consideration as to how they took advantage of a system. Some people (and without moralizing) follow the rules because they feel better about following the rules. C. |
I Am sure that the problem scanned passport can be verified to the data base of 'Approved' GE holders and the imposter taken care of right on the spot....
i.e. detained. Safe Travels |
What’s GE? |
Originally Posted by Scots_Al
(Post 30220157)
What’s GE? --- It's a really dumb idea to start pulling tricks when going through immigration, particularly if the "reward" is to jump a queue ... |
Thanks - just googled it. This thread may be better suited to a geographic forum on FT... |
Originally Posted by smcgrath12
(Post 30219678)
I was explaining a friend of mine about how she can use her new GE status. One thing struck me.. what is stopping non-GE folks from engaging in a charade of scanning their passports in the GE kiosk, claiming that passport is not scanning and getting head of line privilege (for the immigrant line)? The only reason I can think of is to avoid lying to a government official and the penalties that go with this lying.. Is it lying to use a machine that doesn't work for the person and that person then claiming the kiosk doesn't work for them? Either way, it sounds unethical and not necessarily a reliable way to save time. |
I've had the opposite. I've been stuck in the (in OP's word) immigrant line at two airports were they're backed all the way up cause some A330 just showed up from Brasil and there's 350 people waiting in the line and been sent to a GE kiosk. It works, but will ask to see a CBP agent for secondary inspection. Maybe they saw how tired I was?
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
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Some CBP employees will send the persons back to an appropriate line for non-GE members and/or former/revoked GE members whose use of the GE kiosks flopped.
Is it lying to use a machine that doesn't work for the person and that person then claiming the kiosk doesn't work for them? Either way, it sounds unethical and not necessarily a reliable way to save time. Related Q. Any experience of a situation when you forgot to update your new passport details for your GE membership and kiosk rejecting you? If you have your GE card on you, are you allowed to go the front of the line? YMMV situation? |
Originally Posted by smcgrath12
(Post 30219678)
I was explaining a friend of mine about how she can use her new GE status. One thing struck me.. what is stopping non-GE folks from engaging in a charade of scanning their passports in the GE kiosk, claiming that passport is not scanning and getting head of line privilege (for the immigrant line)?
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Moving to the Trusted Traveler forum for further discussion. Thanks. /JY1024, TravelBuzz moderator
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Originally Posted by LarryJ
(Post 30221557)
A GE member's passport is no different than a non-GE member's passport so the GE machine should scan it just fine. I would imagine that it would determine that the passport holder is not a GE member and would reject them.
Your passport can be rejected for many reasons - sometimes even CBP can't tell you why it won't scan. If it doesn't, you go to the front of the line at the nearest agent. You get to cut the line, no questions asked, because you are a GE member. Poster is asking if it's possible for a non-GE member to fake it to skip long lines. Put your non-GE passport in the scanner, it gets rejected, so you walk over and cut in line. The question is, will that agent see that you are not GE and bump you to the back of the line? Or will you get away with your sneaky way to get GE privileges without paying for GE. |
Unlike misusing priority boarding there might be uncomfortable consequences of misusing CBP systems, ie: full body secondary search?
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I've occasionally seen non-GE pax try to use the GE kiosks or get through the GE agent. Every time I've seen them sent back to the regular queue.
I don't think it's *intentional* abuse—often just pax who don't speak any English and take a wrong turn. |
Originally Posted by tentseller
(Post 30223791)
Unlike misusing priority boarding there might be uncomfortable consequences of misusing CBP systems, ie: full body secondary search?
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