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Will a parent's criminal indictment affect the GE eligibility of adult children?

Old May 21, 18, 9:29 am
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Will a parent's criminal indictment affect the GE eligibility of adult children?

My two nieces went for their GE interviews yesterday. They spent about 25 minutes in there, together but at separate desks. We could see them through the glass - lots of joking around, flirting, smiles from the agents, questions about where they are from (both born in NY, raised in FL), where they go to school, etc. The agents were all young men (2 handling each of them) and my nieces are 19 and 21. During this whole time, an older guy was brought in, processed, and sent out in a few minutes as is normal. Once the girls came out, they told me that the agents told them that their applications need "further review" and they should hear back in a few days. The only clue we have is that one was asked about their father, who is estranged but is under federal indictment for health care fraud. They were about to approve one but the guy processing the other who asked the question said not to and that it needs review.

They were both fingerprinted, so hopefully the review goes through and they get the approval email soon.

Any ideas what's going on? Would a legal issue with a parent cause GE problems for the child?
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Old May 21, 18, 10:51 am
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Any ideas what's going on? Would a legal issue with a parent cause GE problems for the child?
Yes, potentially. Itís risk-based, and the kids being one degree of separation from someone under federal indictment means they are higher risk than your average GE applicant. It sounds like it may just be approved with a supervisor sign off though
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Yes, potentially. Itís risk-based, and the kids being one degree of separation from someone under federal indictment means they are higher risk than your average GE applicant. It sounds like it may just be approved with a supervisor sign off though
Higher risk of violating immigration/customs laws?
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Old May 22, 18, 6:06 pm
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Higher risk of violating immigration/customs laws?
Those who violate one law are more likely to violate another.
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Those who violate one law are more likely to violate another.
What laws have the OP's nieces broken?
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Old May 27, 18, 8:37 pm
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What laws have the OP's nieces broken?
The issue was the delay due to the criminal relative. A rebuttal was presented that the crime wasn't of interest to customs.
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Old May 29, 18, 7:14 am
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Still no update. Website still allows them to schedule interview - thinking of just scheduling a new interview at different location and seeing what happens. At least we can ask for more details - calling is useless. Any suggestions?
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I would wait a bit longer. A new interview is likely to cause confusion.
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Would a legal issue with a parent cause GE problems for the child?
It can and has at times. But when it does itís usually mostly related to being part of the same household.
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Old May 29, 18, 7:59 am
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Likely simply that CFP will speak with the investigating agency to determine whether there is any evidence implicating either or both nieces. Other issues might include whether they live with their father or the facts suggest they knew but did nothing about it (which is in and of itself not a crime, but might make one "untrustworthy" for a program which is definitionally for he "trusted").

Scheduling another interview will not help and will most likely gum up any process, but it will reduce the federal deficit by $100 each.

These things can take a long time. People sometimes wait for months for simple database updates to be checked in order to confirm that they are not some bad guy who has a similar name.

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Old May 29, 18, 10:59 am
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Thanks. The issue likely arose because, as GUWonder stated, the father still had the same legal address as the nieces who live with their mother, even though he had a separate residence. Ugh. He is causing so many problems for the family.
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Old Jun 17, 18, 5:59 pm
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Both applications were denied. As suggested in the denial letters, the girls are going to meet with the local office supervisor to discuss the denial.
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