Global Entry, NEXUS or TSA PreCheck?
Jun 21, 2017, 5:36 am
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GE costs $15 more over 5 years. That is $3 per year and it is well worth it if you fly just one international trip. The kiosks and app do work, but they don't get you past Customs and faster and when things get crowded, GE will generally be the least crowded.
If you fly regularly, schedule yourself a longer connection on an upcoming trip and schedule your GE interview for that airport. There should be a GE site at pretty much all of the hubs, so this should be easier if you are 6 hours from SEA.
If you fly regularly, schedule yourself a longer connection on an upcoming trip and schedule your GE interview for that airport. There should be a GE site at pretty much all of the hubs, so this should be easier if you are 6 hours from SEA.
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Jun 21, 2017, 7:38 am
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You are confusing two entirely separate processes.
GE is a CBP program for entry to the US.
Pre-Check is a TSA program for expedited security clearance at checkpoints.
GE includes Pre-Check, but the two programs are separate.
GE costs $100 for 5 years and Pre-Check $85 for the same time period. Thus, you are saving $15 over 5 years by selecting Pre-Check only. That is $3 per year. If you travel 4 times/year, that is $0.75 per entry.
GE is a CBP program for entry to the US.
Pre-Check is a TSA program for expedited security clearance at checkpoints.
GE includes Pre-Check, but the two programs are separate.
GE costs $100 for 5 years and Pre-Check $85 for the same time period. Thus, you are saving $15 over 5 years by selecting Pre-Check only. That is $3 per year. If you travel 4 times/year, that is $0.75 per entry.
My situation - I have GE and my wife does not. We are traveling on the same tickets to Europe next month. Due to positioning flights she will have to go thru security in TUL and JFK on the outbound as well as DTW and probably IAH on the return. Pre-check would be a huge benefit for those 4 check-points. However she will only have to go thru immigration at DTW, so GE would only apply once on the trip, unless there are some reciprocal benefits in FRA and/or BCN?
We don't have a GE interview site at TUL, and when I signed up 6 years ago, it took 3 months to schedule an interview, plus it had to co-incide with a trip I was taking to a major airport city. Is this process still basically in play? From reading recent blogs, the Pre-check interview can probably be scheduled in TUL in plenty of time to add KTN to our July reservations. That wouldn't help her on re-entry in DTW, but it would make 4 security lines much shorter.
Wouldn't it be preferable for her to get the pre-check in this situation since that is actually attainable and will provide substantial benefit vs the GOES which would be nice in the future, but wouldn't help at all this trip?
Or can we be reasonably certain that DL and SQ and UA will automatically grant her Pre-check by being on my PNR even without her own KTN? Or is there a way to apply for both GE and Pre-check separately for a single fee, do the pre-check interview next week in TUL, then try to schedule the GOES interview which we are at JFK on 7/18 or in DTW on 7/25? Obviously GE wouldn't help her this trip either way, but if she could get pre-check now and complete the GOES process as a nice to have for the future, it could make sense.
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Jun 21, 2017, 8:59 am
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Moderator's Note:
Recently, we had some confusion in several other threads due to a member's use of the term GOES when referring to Global Entry.
GOES is the acronym for the Global Online Enrollment System and the website which is used to enroll in and update or edit information for the following Trusted Traveler Programs: Global Entry, Flux, NEXUS, SENTRI and FAST.
To avoid confusion, please use GE, not GOES, as the abbreviation for Global Entry.
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GOES is the acronym for the Global Online Enrollment System and the website which is used to enroll in and update or edit information for the following Trusted Traveler Programs: Global Entry, Flux, NEXUS, SENTRI and FAST.
To avoid confusion, please use GE, not GOES, as the abbreviation for Global Entry.
Thank you,
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Jun 21, 2017, 12:26 pm
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Or can we be reasonably certain that DL and SQ and UA will automatically grant her Pre-check by being on my PNR even without her own KTN? Or is there a way to apply for both GE and Pre-check separately for a single fee, do the pre-check interview next week in TUL, then try to schedule the GOES interview which we are at JFK on 7/18 or in DTW on 7/25? Obviously GE wouldn't help her this trip either way, but if she could get pre-check now and complete the GOES process as a nice to have for the future, it could make sense.
would be more appropriate. I know of no way to apply for GE and PreCheck separately for a single fee. While GE has the added benefit of PreCheck they really are totally separate programs with different qualifying procedures and criteria.
Jun 21, 2017, 1:17 pm
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That is interesting. We did not get that extension from mine to hers in Dec 2015 when we went to Curacao on AA, but I believe that we booked separate tickets from each of our AAdvantage accounts in one of the directions - which would be a separate PNR.
Nov 22, 2017, 6:58 am
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Global Entry vs. TSA PreCheck : don't live near big enough airport
I've submitted an application for TSA PreCheck and made an appointment - they do appointments at my local airport (RDU).
The closest place that does Global Entry checks is Charlotte, and I don't have any plans to go there any time soon, although I would actually prefer to have Global Entry.
Does it make any sense to also submit an application for Global Entry on the off chance that I'd be able to get an appointment or be able to walk in for an interview at some future date (within the 360-or-so days) when I happen to be in a big airport?
Otherwise I need to either live with just TSA precheck, or schedule a whole damn day off to make a round trip to Charlotte for no other reason than this...
The closest place that does Global Entry checks is Charlotte, and I don't have any plans to go there any time soon, although I would actually prefer to have Global Entry.
Does it make any sense to also submit an application for Global Entry on the off chance that I'd be able to get an appointment or be able to walk in for an interview at some future date (within the 360-or-so days) when I happen to be in a big airport?
Otherwise I need to either live with just TSA precheck, or schedule a whole damn day off to make a round trip to Charlotte for no other reason than this...
May 4, 2018, 6:29 am
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Question:
Any issues applying to both Global and TSA Pre at the same time? I need to get the domestic but, wouldn't mind the perk of international. However, the TSA PRE seems like a quicker process than GE. Also, if I'm approved for both can I not renew TSA PRE and keep renewing the GE?
FYI waiting for GE 1 month. TSA PRE Approved in 24 HOURS!
Any issues applying to both Global and TSA Pre at the same time? I need to get the domestic but, wouldn't mind the perk of international. However, the TSA PRE seems like a quicker process than GE. Also, if I'm approved for both can I not renew TSA PRE and keep renewing the GE?
FYI waiting for GE 1 month. TSA PRE Approved in 24 HOURS!
May 7, 2018, 9:13 am
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Sep 30, 2018, 1:01 pm
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You are automatically enrolled in TSA PreCheck when you are approved for Global Entry. GE costs $100, but if you travel internationally even fairly often then it's absolutely worth it.
The fee for TSA PreCheck is $85 per their website. For just $15 more ($100 GE application fee), you can sign up for Global Entry and get PreCheck as an added benefit for free. If you really want both programs, sign up for GE and you'll get both for only $100. You do have to schedule an interview for GE, but it's not hard to do so. Go for it!
Also, if you have an AMEX Platinum card then your $100 GE sign-up fee gets reimbursed by AMEX.
The fee for TSA PreCheck is $85 per their website. For just $15 more ($100 GE application fee), you can sign up for Global Entry and get PreCheck as an added benefit for free. If you really want both programs, sign up for GE and you'll get both for only $100. You do have to schedule an interview for GE, but it's not hard to do so. Go for it!
Also, if you have an AMEX Platinum card then your $100 GE sign-up fee gets reimbursed by AMEX.
Is there any advantages domestically of being enrolled in TSA PreCheck Vs GD in getting TSA Pre for your flight?
Oct 1, 2018, 7:11 am
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Aproved GE does indeed include TSA PreCheck as an added benefit. There really is no additional benefit to have GE and then separately enroll in TSA PreCheck. Technically my wife has both GE and separate TSA PreCheck. Her GE was at her own expense to be used in connection with our personal International travel. Her additional TSA PreCheck comes free because of her status as a Department of Defense employee. Since you can’t enter two KTNs in your airline profiles she chose her GE number. No particular reason nor any sense or notion that one number is better than the other. Bottom line for her is she has gotten TSA PreCheck 100% of the time for her frequent travels.
Jan 11, 2019, 7:41 am
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precheck vs global entry
Is there any difference between buying the TSA precheck for getting via global entry? Someone asked me and was not sure. I didn't think global entry expires?
Jan 11, 2019, 7:46 am
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Yes, there is a difference. Buying PreCheck will only get you expedited security. Buying Global Entry gives you expedited security and allows you access to Kiosks at Immigration which will get you through faster as you typically don't have to interact with an Immigration Officer. Both require an interview before you're approved for it and expire after 5 years.
Jan 11, 2019, 7:58 am
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Now that the GE interview locations have been expanded to most (all?) of the places where Precheck interviews are held, there's really no reason not to get GE. They may ask you a few more questions...that's it.
All it takes is one arrival at a crowded immigration hall and whatever you paid for it ($100?) is completely worth it.
When I first got it, the interview locations were few and far between. I trekked out to JFK during a business trip to New York to get it done.
All it takes is one arrival at a crowded immigration hall and whatever you paid for it ($100?) is completely worth it.
When I first got it, the interview locations were few and far between. I trekked out to JFK during a business trip to New York to get it done.
Jan 11, 2019, 8:57 am
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If you don't have a passport, you don't need GE !
GE costs $100 for 5 years, while Pre-Check costs $85 for the same time period. That is a $15 difference or $3 per year. If you take one overseas trip a year, it is costing you a $3 "premium" to have GE access.
Unless you have no projected need for international travel or have what one might nicely referred to as a checkered past which CBP, but not TSA, may find problematic, GE is a simple investment.
GE costs $100 for 5 years, while Pre-Check costs $85 for the same time period. That is a $15 difference or $3 per year. If you take one overseas trip a year, it is costing you a $3 "premium" to have GE access.
Unless you have no projected need for international travel or have what one might nicely referred to as a checkered past which CBP, but not TSA, may find problematic, GE is a simple investment.