Outgoing TSA chief says "random" precheck status is ending
Jan 10, 2015, 7:21 am
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The difference is so pronounced that I gave up my Clear membership, since it was no longer providing any perceptible benefit @ SFO.
Jan 17, 2015, 3:16 pm
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Was this in the past six weeks? We've all seen instances like that, but the consensus is that those days are coming to an end.
Jan 17, 2015, 8:11 pm
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Cutbacks are coming to airline FF opt-ins as well
From the AS forum
From the AS forum
Okay, it's official: Those who opted-in to the PreCheck pilot through AS will now no longer get cleared for PreCheck as often.
This, on the Alaska Airlines PreCheck page:
Beginning in 2015, TSA will make refinements to the program. These changes will have no impact to passengers enrolled in a Trusted Traveler program and / or those who have been issued a Known Traveler Number (KTN). However, those without a KTN will not receive TSA Pre® as often, including those who opted-in for the pilot program in 2011.
And in today's Mileage Plan summary email for December 2014:
Important TSA Pre✓® Update
Beginning in 2015, TSA will make refinements to the program. These changes will have no impact to passengers enrolled in a Trusted Traveler program and/or those who have been issued a Known Traveler Number (KTN). However, those without a KTN will not receive TSA Pre✓® as often, including those who opted-in for the pilot program in 2011 and we encourage you to enroll in the Trusted Traveler Program to continue enjoying these benefits.
So while PreCheck benefits are apparently not going away for those who enrolled directly through Alaska Airlines, the benefits are not as likely to be as consistent starting this year.
This, on the Alaska Airlines PreCheck page:
Beginning in 2015, TSA will make refinements to the program. These changes will have no impact to passengers enrolled in a Trusted Traveler program and / or those who have been issued a Known Traveler Number (KTN). However, those without a KTN will not receive TSA Pre® as often, including those who opted-in for the pilot program in 2011.
And in today's Mileage Plan summary email for December 2014:
Important TSA Pre✓® Update
Beginning in 2015, TSA will make refinements to the program. These changes will have no impact to passengers enrolled in a Trusted Traveler program and/or those who have been issued a Known Traveler Number (KTN). However, those without a KTN will not receive TSA Pre✓® as often, including those who opted-in for the pilot program in 2011 and we encourage you to enroll in the Trusted Traveler Program to continue enjoying these benefits.
So while PreCheck benefits are apparently not going away for those who enrolled directly through Alaska Airlines, the benefits are not as likely to be as consistent starting this year.
Jan 18, 2015, 5:12 am
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Jan 18, 2015, 5:47 am
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The Transportation Security Administration’s PreCheck program is desperate for customers after three years of operation. TSA is hiring private contractors to launch a massive sign-up effort.
TSA needs millions more enrolled to make sure PreCheck lines are fully used.
TSA needs millions more enrolled to make sure PreCheck lines are fully used.
While Congress and the rest of us were slipping out for the holidays, the TSA quietly published its intent to hire big data companies to solicit you for PreCheck enrollment, and seek your consent to mine your grocery receipts, your credit card purchases, and even your Facebook posts to determine if you are a terrorist risk – not just once but on an ongoing basis...
The government has concluded that low participation rates in the expedited airport screening program known as PreCheck must be due to poor marketing and slow enrollment, as opposed to the flying public recognizing a bad deal when they see it.
The government has concluded that low participation rates in the expedited airport screening program known as PreCheck must be due to poor marketing and slow enrollment, as opposed to the flying public recognizing a bad deal when they see it.
Last edited by petaluma1; Jan 18, 2015 at 6:09 am
Jan 18, 2015, 7:02 am
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P.S. Nice to see someone else from Petaluma.
My parents live just off Casa Grande.
Jan 18, 2015, 2:12 pm
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I'm not so certain that allowing non-registered people into PreCheck lines will fade away quite so quickly. According to the WSJ last October:
And from The Hill just recently:
What are those PreCheck lines going to be like if, and it's a huge if, the TSA is successful in recruiting more participants?
And from The Hill just recently:
What are those PreCheck lines going to be like if, and it's a huge if, the TSA is successful in recruiting more participants?
TSA has hinted that ideally almost everyone (except evil-doers) will sign up for Pre, so much so that it will be come the default. Supposedly that meant more time to focus on groping and swabbing non-Pre pax.
I still wonder who gave TSA the numbers and business plan for this. On any given day, how many fliers are people who would likely be Pre candidates? 75%? Really? It isn't likely to include kids, first-time fliers, infrequent fliers, foreign tourists....A middle-class family of four flying on vacation every two years isn't going to pony up $300+ for a 'maybe' faster transit through the checkpoint a couple times.
Jan 19, 2015, 5:15 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by petaluma1
I'm not so certain that allowing non-registered people into PreCheck lines will fade away quite so quickly. According to the WSJ last October:
And from The Hill just recently:
What are those PreCheck lines going to be like if, and it's a huge if, the TSA is successful in recruiting more participants?
It would be interesting to see Pre re-enrollment numbers.
TSA has hinted that ideally almost everyone (except evil-doers) will sign up for Pre, so much so that it will be come the default. Supposedly that meant more time to focus on groping and swabbing non-Pre pax.
I still wonder who gave TSA the numbers and business plan for this. On any given day, how many fliers are people who would likely be Pre candidates? 75%? Really? It isn't likely to include kids, first-time fliers, infrequent fliers, foreign tourists....A middle-class family of four flying on vacation every two years isn't going to pony up $300+ for a 'maybe' faster transit through the checkpoint a couple times.
Originally Posted by petaluma1
I'm not so certain that allowing non-registered people into PreCheck lines will fade away quite so quickly. According to the WSJ last October:
And from The Hill just recently:
What are those PreCheck lines going to be like if, and it's a huge if, the TSA is successful in recruiting more participants?
It would be interesting to see Pre re-enrollment numbers.
TSA has hinted that ideally almost everyone (except evil-doers) will sign up for Pre, so much so that it will be come the default. Supposedly that meant more time to focus on groping and swabbing non-Pre pax.
I still wonder who gave TSA the numbers and business plan for this. On any given day, how many fliers are people who would likely be Pre candidates? 75%? Really? It isn't likely to include kids, first-time fliers, infrequent fliers, foreign tourists....A middle-class family of four flying on vacation every two years isn't going to pony up $300+ for a 'maybe' faster transit through the checkpoint a couple times.
Jan 19, 2015, 7:00 am
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Jan 19, 2015, 3:03 pm
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Extortion... eh, I paid $100 and it's good for five years. I don't deal with the hassles of taking crap out of bags, I don't deal with long lines (usually), and I also avoid long lines coming in from international locales. Seems worth it to me.
The PreCheck lines at LGA's United terminal and DEN's Concourse A (walkway, not the big bullpen) were great for me a few weeks ago around the holidays. Granted it was Saturday travel.
The PreCheck lines at LGA's United terminal and DEN's Concourse A (walkway, not the big bullpen) were great for me a few weeks ago around the holidays. Granted it was Saturday travel.
Jan 19, 2015, 3:20 pm
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If only Tony Soprano (RIP) were as successful. He might never have had to enter into other criminal enterprises.
