Why did I get the dreaded SSSS despite my GE/Pre✓/Nexus status? [merged threads]
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I'm in GE and hence TSA PC also.
Every flight from ZRH-JFK (on AA) prints TSA PC on my bp*--except one. For that flt (random) I was SSSS, about 3 extra minutes of screening--much better than FRA (noted in a post above).
*TSA PC has NO significance in ZRH.
Every flight from ZRH-JFK (on AA) prints TSA PC on my bp*--except one. For that flt (random) I was SSSS, about 3 extra minutes of screening--much better than FRA (noted in a post above).
*TSA PC has NO significance in ZRH.
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Maybe not the right forum...
Just checked in for my flight home to the US tomorrow. Flying LOT from Tallinn to Warsaw, connecting to LOT Warsaw-LAX, UA LAX-LAS.
SSSS printed on my WAW-LAX and LAX-LAS boarding passes, but not my TLL-WAW one. My Global Entry KTN is attached to my reservation.
I have a one hour layover in WAW, which I was already sweating, but now I'm especially nervous. Bags checked through, of course, but I still need to deplane, clear passport control, and be at the gate within 50 minutes of wheels down from my flight from Tallinn.
Will I make it?
I'm sure the reason for this is that my outbound from the US was to Turkey...
Just checked in for my flight home to the US tomorrow. Flying LOT from Tallinn to Warsaw, connecting to LOT Warsaw-LAX, UA LAX-LAS.
SSSS printed on my WAW-LAX and LAX-LAS boarding passes, but not my TLL-WAW one. My Global Entry KTN is attached to my reservation.
I have a one hour layover in WAW, which I was already sweating, but now I'm especially nervous. Bags checked through, of course, but I still need to deplane, clear passport control, and be at the gate within 50 minutes of wheels down from my flight from Tallinn.
Will I make it?
I'm sure the reason for this is that my outbound from the US was to Turkey...
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You should be fine, just hustle to the gate and they will rescreen you on the more enhanced screening in the US rescreen area. In WAW it's NOT as worse as FRA - have as much prepared as possible (e.g no extra liquids have notebook/tablet, etc all easy to pull out). On the LAX-LAS - suggest changing the seat number on UA and try getting the BP on the UA app - I've sometimes seen after a seat change on UA removes this.
The incoming to WAW was a little late, with no bus waiting to take us to the terminal as well, so I did have to hustle. Made it to the gate and they did send me back to the re-screen gate. Unfortunately there were 3 people for other flights in the line in front of me, and everybody took about 5 minutes to be screened. The screening was pretty thorough but not terribly intense. By the time I made it back to the gate I was the last one on the plane (but still arrived about 10 minutes before departure time.)
At LAX, I tried to change the seat on the UA app but couldn't - asked an agent to reprint a boarding pass for me and that didn't help either. The screening at LAX took 23 minutes from start to finish. Very professional agent, not on a power trip, but incredibly, incredibly thorough. Every single item was removed from my suitcase (whereas in Warsaw only my electronics were taken out, even though everything else was briefly looked at, and swabbed for explosives).
When the first-contact TSA agent at LAX told me "your airline has randomly selected you..." I said "nope, I just came back from Turkey." He half-smiled and stopped the spiel. . My friend, traveling with me on the same itinerary, was SSSSed in WAW and LAX as well.
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I'm a UA plat and nexus / GE and got the SSSS on flights from LIS-FCO (TAP), FCO-ORD and ORD -YYZ ( both UA). I was subject to zero enhanced screening in LIS, at FCO they unzipped my camera bag and peeped in for maybe 2 seconds. The biggest inconvenience was that I didn't get TSA Pre Check in ORD, while my wife, with the same status, GE/Nexus etc did.
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On 7/4, I was flying CTU-NRT on NH, switching to NRT-LAX on UA. I attempted to check-in on-line in Chengdu, only to no avail (the NH app kept on erroring out). When I checked in at the airport, my first BP (CTU-NRT) was fine, but the NRT-LAX had the SSSS. Even when I got to NRT, I attempted to OLCI on the UA app, but it gave me my traveling partner's BP, but mine was replaced with "this is not a boarding pass." At the gate though, they made me take off my shoes (sandals) and swab them, and let me go on my way.
Now, last year, I was flying MNL-HND (also on NH), followed by HND-SFO-LAX on UA and I had attempted to OLCI via NH, and on the HND-SFO I got the SSSS (so I had to re-print my BP at SFO, which showed PreCheck). Yet, earlier this year, I flew MNL-NRT (on NH) followed by NRT-LAX (on UA) and I didn't get the SSSS; but then again, I didn't try to OLCI either.
Could the SSSS be related to my attempts to OLCI via NH?
Now, last year, I was flying MNL-HND (also on NH), followed by HND-SFO-LAX on UA and I had attempted to OLCI via NH, and on the HND-SFO I got the SSSS (so I had to re-print my BP at SFO, which showed PreCheck). Yet, earlier this year, I flew MNL-NRT (on NH) followed by NRT-LAX (on UA) and I didn't get the SSSS; but then again, I didn't try to OLCI either.
Could the SSSS be related to my attempts to OLCI via NH?
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Yes, but it's almost certainly because of the UA flight following a non-US flight. In other words, such hits coming up is routinely part of the attempted check-in aspect for the UA flight when a US-bound US-carrier's flight is the onward connecting flight for an incoming flight on a non-US carrier.
And given c. 10% of passenger-entered, typed-in passport data on PNRs is incorrect in part and the concern about people using OLCI to reduce the chances of passport being examined as often as with physical check-in with an airline rep at the airport, it shouldn't be a surprise that this is also a factor in such hits for passengers flying to the US from abroad.
And given c. 10% of passenger-entered, typed-in passport data on PNRs is incorrect in part and the concern about people using OLCI to reduce the chances of passport being examined as often as with physical check-in with an airline rep at the airport, it shouldn't be a surprise that this is also a factor in such hits for passengers flying to the US from abroad.
Last edited by TWA884; Jul 26, 2019 at 9:07 am
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On an oversell NH will push a Star Gold to PE way before the 24 hour check in window. It does happen inside that window rarely but most of the time it's before you've even checked in. On NH I've gone from Y to PE about 10 times and from Y to Biz about 2 - all showed up at check in as a seat change
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Please let's get back on topic, that is trusted travelers hit with the dreadful SSSS.
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#310
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My wife has gotten the SSSS the last 4 trips we have taken. We both have nexus but she keeps getting it.
Aug 2017 - YYZ - LAX - HNL
June 2017 - YYZ - LGA
Oct 2016 - YYZ - PHL - SJU
April 2016 - YYZ - LAS
Heading to LAS again in two weeks and wondering if she'll get it again.
Aug 2017 - YYZ - LAX - HNL
June 2017 - YYZ - LGA
Oct 2016 - YYZ - PHL - SJU
April 2016 - YYZ - LAS
Heading to LAS again in two weeks and wondering if she'll get it again.
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My wife has gotten the SSSS the last 4 trips we have taken. We both have nexus but she keeps getting it.
Aug 2017 - YYZ - LAX - HNL
June 2017 - YYZ - LGA
Oct 2016 - YYZ - PHL - SJU
April 2016 - YYZ - LAS
Heading to LAS again in two weeks and wondering if she'll get it again.
Aug 2017 - YYZ - LAX - HNL
June 2017 - YYZ - LGA
Oct 2016 - YYZ - PHL - SJU
April 2016 - YYZ - LAS
Heading to LAS again in two weeks and wondering if she'll get it again.
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My wife has gotten the SSSS the last 4 trips we have taken. We both have nexus but she keeps getting it.
Aug 2017 - YYZ - LAX - HNL
June 2017 - YYZ - LGA
Oct 2016 - YYZ - PHL - SJU
April 2016 - YYZ - LAS
Heading to LAS again in two weeks and wondering if she'll get it again.
Aug 2017 - YYZ - LAX - HNL
June 2017 - YYZ - LGA
Oct 2016 - YYZ - PHL - SJU
April 2016 - YYZ - LAS
Heading to LAS again in two weeks and wondering if she'll get it again.
Repeatedly getting SSSS on boarding passes when flying to the US It is argued there that redress won't help when SSSS occurs exclusively on in-bound international flights on a single carrier.
Would I be right in guessing that all of the flights that you mentioned are on AC? I also have Nexus and have had SSSS on my last two AC flights to the US. I am fully expecting it again next week. At least SSSS in YYZ preclearance isn't too bad, but I wish that I could do OLCI.
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My wife is very prone to getting SSSSed on foreign-origin flights (although generally at an airport where SSSS means nothing!) However, on domestic-origin flights she is about 100% on getting pre-check. If there really was something evil tied to her name (very unlikely, her name likely is unique in the world) she wouldn't be getting pre-check.
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My wife has gotten the SSSS the last 4 trips we have taken. We both have nexus but she keeps getting it.
Aug 2017 - YYZ - LAX - HNL
June 2017 - YYZ - LGA
Oct 2016 - YYZ - PHL - SJU
April 2016 - YYZ - LAS
Heading to LAS again in two weeks and wondering if she'll get it again.
Aug 2017 - YYZ - LAX - HNL
June 2017 - YYZ - LGA
Oct 2016 - YYZ - PHL - SJU
April 2016 - YYZ - LAS
Heading to LAS again in two weeks and wondering if she'll get it again.
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There's a related thread that you should look at too:
Repeatedly getting SSSS on boarding passes when flying to the US It is argued there that redress won't help when SSSS occurs exclusively on in-bound international flights on a single carrier.
Repeatedly getting SSSS on boarding passes when flying to the US It is argued there that redress won't help when SSSS occurs exclusively on in-bound international flights on a single carrier.
Last edited by TWA884; Jul 26, 2019 at 9:07 am