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TricoReue Jun 30, 2014 12:35 pm

First time with PreCheck
 
Okay, happily I got PreCheck (and will likely do so everytime I fly thanks to my employer). But this being my first time, I'm somewhat confused on the laptop policy with PreCheck, especially at places that may not have a dedicated PreCheck lane. Can the laptop stay in, regardless of whether it's one of those special TSA friendly laptop bags, or will it need to come out?

Thanks for the advice.

Often1 Jun 30, 2014 12:38 pm

If you've been selected for Pre-Check on a given segment, the laptop stays in its bag.

On occasion, you may find some stations where pre-check is closed at certain hours and you are granted "modified" pre-check. On those occasions, you will be instructed as to the differences. Usually it's that the laptop comes out of its bag.

beckoa Jun 30, 2014 2:20 pm

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Or as in the case places w/o pre completely- they let you keep your shoes on but that's it. Everything else was the same as regular security. Had this in AKN last week.

TricoReue Jun 30, 2014 5:38 pm

Often1 and beckoa, thanks for the info. So for now laptop gets to stay.

Although unfortunately, Pre-Check or no Pre-Check, my boots will need to come off if I go through a metal detector, the steel shank has a tendency to set those things off.

BH62 Jul 1, 2014 2:23 pm

And even if you have PreCheck & there *is* a PreCheck lane, the magical randomizer sometimes will send you to a regular lane. Happened to me at SEA a few weeks ago, but at least I could use the Premier/1K/Whatever lane rather than the mob scene lane. Otherwise, scored PreCheck on all trips so far this year.

DeterminedToUpgrade Jul 3, 2014 11:00 am

I believe I have read a directive about "electronics stacked on top of one another" or similar language needing to be taken out of the bag. If this is correct, does it apply if, say, I slip my iPad into the same compartment of a laptop bag housing my laptop? That's easily solvable, and I don't imagine that it would apply to an iPad and laptop housed separately in, say, a backpack, but stacked save for dividers in the bag.

N1120A Jul 5, 2014 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by TricoReue (Post 23120738)
Okay, happily I got PreCheck (and will likely do so everytime I fly thanks to my employer). But this being my first time, I'm somewhat confused on the laptop policy with PreCheck, especially at places that may not have a dedicated PreCheck lane. Can the laptop stay in, regardless of whether it's one of those special TSA friendly laptop bags, or will it need to come out?

Thanks for the advice.

It stays in, unless you are doing expedited (terminals where they don't have room for a dedicated lane, or when a PreCheck lane is closed). Then it comes out, but usually you can keep your freedom baggie in.


Originally Posted by TricoReue (Post 23122243)
Often1 and beckoa, thanks for the info. So for now laptop gets to stay.

Although unfortunately, Pre-Check or no Pre-Check, my boots will need to come off if I go through a metal detector, the steel shank has a tendency to set those things off.

You'd be surprised on the boots thing.


Originally Posted by BH62 (Post 23127212)
And even if you have PreCheck & there *is* a PreCheck lane, the magical randomizer sometimes will send you to a regular lane. Happened to me at SEA a few weeks ago, but at least I could use the Premier/1K/Whatever lane rather than the mob scene lane. Otherwise, scored PreCheck on all trips so far this year.

What randomizer?

redtigeriii Jul 5, 2014 3:01 pm

A few family members of mine who don't travel much managed to get pre-check on two flights recently, and flying out of PDX they got it, but still ended up getting sent through a body scanner (but didn't have to take off shoes, belt, take out computer, etc.) I don't know if the official pre-check lane was closed or what but from what I've seen and read on other threads on here, there seems to be more and more of this type of thing happening, and especially at my home airport. Kinda feels like a bait and switch with TSA trying to get people to pay to sign up and touting all the benefits of Pre-Check, but then end up sending random travelers through the lane anyways increasing the wait, and then start to have the body scanners be used more often for people in Pre-Check. I mean if that's how its going to go, whats the point?

CREN Jul 10, 2014 6:34 pm


Originally Posted by DeterminedToUpgrade (Post 23137714)
I believe I have read a directive about "electronics stacked on top of one another" or similar language needing to be taken out of the bag. If this is correct, does it apply if, say, I slip my iPad into the same compartment of a laptop bag housing my laptop? That's easily solvable, and I don't imagine that it would apply to an iPad and laptop housed separately in, say, a backpack, but stacked save for dividers in the bag.

Every time I have used PreCheck, I keep my laptop and iPad on top of each other in the same bag and never have had a problem. Although, I have read on here the TSO sometimes asks you to take one of them out of the bag.

gobluetwo Jul 11, 2014 7:37 am

Been through PreCheck well over a hundred times.

- No issues with "stacked" electronics (i.e., laptop + tablet). With 2 laptops, I've seen them ask people to take just one out.

- When PreCheck closed or not available, I've been asked to remove laptop/liquids, but keep shoes, belt, light outerwear on. TSA-friendly laptop bags were fine at multiple airports. I just unzipped rather than completely removing the laptop.

- I've never witnessed a randomizer which sent PreCheck people to a regular lane. Rather, you will sometimes get the long beep when going through the metal detector, which means you've been randomly selected for additional screening. This just consists of a hand swab, in my experience. Regular PreCheck experience otherwise.

DeterminedToUpgrade Jul 11, 2014 5:33 pm

Cheers both, thank you. I'm looking forward to the PreCheck experience, since the hassle of security is really the only thing I dislike about flying.

makfan Jul 12, 2014 9:09 pm


Originally Posted by gobluetwo (Post 23180020)
- I've never witnessed a randomizer which sent PreCheck people to a regular lane. Rather, you will sometimes get the long beep when going through the metal detector, which means you've been randomly selected for additional screening. This just consists of a hand swab, in my experience. Regular PreCheck experience otherwise.

tonight at JFK (AA), two of the three people ahead of me at PreCheck got the long beep and were instructed to empty their pockets and go through the MMW. :td:

gobluetwo Jul 14, 2014 8:11 am


Originally Posted by makfan (Post 23186765)
tonight at JFK (AA), two of the three people ahead of me at PreCheck got the long beep and were instructed to empty their pockets and go through the MMW. :td:

Must be a new "extra screening" process. I wonder if TSAPressSec can chime in on this.

BSBD Jul 14, 2014 10:53 am


Originally Posted by makfan (Post 23186765)
tonight at JFK (AA), two of the three people ahead of me at PreCheck got the long beep and were instructed to empty their pockets and go through the MMW. :td:

"Trusted Traveler" is rapidly becoming a completely meaningless phrase :td:

I had asked Ross if going through the MMW in Precheck would be truly "optional," as his post on the subject implied, but he has yet to directly answer that question. If the above is now a standard "random" thing in PreCheck, I think I have my answer.

chrisl137 Jul 14, 2014 10:29 pm


Originally Posted by DeterminedToUpgrade (Post 23137714)
I believe I have read a directive about "electronics stacked on top of one another" or similar language needing to be taken out of the bag. If this is correct, does it apply if, say, I slip my iPad into the same compartment of a laptop bag housing my laptop? That's easily solvable, and I don't imagine that it would apply to an iPad and laptop housed separately in, say, a backpack, but stacked save for dividers in the bag.

I've gone through precheck at IAD a few times with a backpack that had two laptops stacked on each other, a kindle fire on top of them (next compartment out), and two phones in the outermost. The first time I asked if I needed to take one of the laptops out, and they said "put them through and we'll see how it looks". Second time I just ran it all through. No hassle either time.

gobluetwo Jul 16, 2014 7:42 am


Originally Posted by DeterminedToUpgrade (Post 23137714)
I believe I have read a directive about "electronics stacked on top of one another" or similar language needing to be taken out of the bag. If this is correct, does it apply if, say, I slip my iPad into the same compartment of a laptop bag housing my laptop? That's easily solvable, and I don't imagine that it would apply to an iPad and laptop housed separately in, say, a backpack, but stacked save for dividers in the bag.

Agree with chrisl137. Although I haven't done it with 2 laptops, I have done it with 1 laptop, 2 tables, and 3 phones (family vacation).

makfan Jul 18, 2014 2:07 am


Originally Posted by gobluetwo (Post 23193066)
Must be a new "extra screening" process. I wonder if TSAPressSec can chime in on this.

By the way, although I surely did hear the long "random" beep, both of the people sent through the MMW were youngish women.

Analise Jun 20, 2016 7:00 am

Using PreCheck for 1st time at LGA
 
I even have the ID card. So will I be able to leave on both my shoes (hiking boots) and my belt? The quart-sized clear bag can stay in the carry-on? I know the TSA Pre-Check rules state that:


No need to remove:

Shoes
Laptops
3-1-1 liquids
Belts
Light jackets
https://www.tsa.gov/tsa-precheck

....but is that the reality at Terminal C or D at LGA? Thanks.

Often1 Jun 20, 2016 7:30 am

I take it that what you mean to ask is whether by virtue of GE, you are eligible for Pre-Check? The answer to that is yes. You won't need the card, Pre-Check should appear on your BP and, if it does, you may use the Pre-Check lanes / checkpoints.

You've answered your own question as to the rules. They are on the TSA website at the link you posted.

bruceba Jun 20, 2016 8:54 am


Originally Posted by Analise (Post 26803828)
I even have the ID card. So will I be able to leave on both my shoes (hiking boots) and my belt? The quart-sized clear bag can stay in the carry-on? I know the TSA Pre-Check rules state that:

https://www.tsa.gov/tsa-precheck

....but is that the reality at Terminal C or D at LGA? Thanks.

What airline are you on? It makes a difference.

dtsm Jun 20, 2016 9:58 am

For TSA Pre to work, you need to add your GE number (known traveler number) when making the reservation. Then the boarding pass will be tagged accordingly.

Best to add GE # into all your frequent flyer accounts so permanently on file.

Analise Jun 20, 2016 11:00 am


Originally Posted by Often1
I take it that what you mean to ask is whether by virtue of GE, you are eligible for Pre-Check?

Indeed I did misstate the question. I do in fact know that TSA Pre-Check is included with GE.


You've answered your own question as to the rules. They are on the TSA website at the link you posted.
Just because rules are listed on the website doesn't necessarily mean that there is uniform adherence which is why I asked the question.


Originally Posted by bruceba (Post 26804338)
What airline are you on? It makes a difference.

That's what I suspected. Delta at either at Terminal C or D at LGA. What can I expect?


Originally Posted by dtsm
For TSA Pre to work, you need to add your GE number (known traveler number) when making the reservation. Then the boarding pass will be tagged accordingly.

Best to add GE # into all your frequent flyer accounts so permanently on file.

I have a GE# that I did add to the reservation; I don't think I was issued a separate TSA Pre-Check #.

Points Scrounger Jun 20, 2016 12:29 pm

I have gone through the metal detector wearing a denim jacket with metal buttons often, the agents when asked have said to try it first, and if it beeps, then send the jacket through x ray. I would leave the boots on unless there's a steel shank. Yes, you leave your laptop and toiletries inside.

Randyk47 Jun 21, 2016 4:54 am


Originally Posted by Analise (Post 26805001)
I have a GE# that I did add to the reservation; I don't think I was issued a separate TSA Pre-Check #.

You use the PassID number, which starts with 98, on the back of your GE card as your Known Traveler Number in your airline profile. It serves the same purpose. You were not issued a separate TSA PreCheck number.

pseudoswede Jun 21, 2016 8:55 am

The biggest caveat is that your boarding pass must state that you can use the Pre-Check line. Even though you have a KTN and are eligible for Pre-Check, it doesn't mean you will get it 100% of the time.


Originally Posted by Analise (Post 26805001)
Just because rules are listed on the website doesn't necessarily mean that there is uniform adherence which is why I asked the question.

That's what I suspected. Delta at either at Terminal C or D at LGA. What can I expect?

What the website says. No, really. Take anything metal out of your pockets, keep your shoes & belt on, put your carry-ons on the scanner belt, walk through the metal detector, and pick up your carry-ons. It's like traveling pre-9/11.


I have a GE# that I did add to the reservation; I don't think I was issued a separate TSA Pre-Check #.
If you bought plane tickets before you were issued your KTN number, you need call in and make sure your KTN is entered by the CSR into your existing record(s).


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