Applying/Renewing Global Entry w/ Dismissed/Expunged Arrests/Charges/Convictions
#31
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Finally getting my boyfriend to apply, and we've been wondering about this. He was arrested in the mid-80s in Manhattan for marijuana. His recollection was that he spent the night in jail and was released by the judge the next day, with a dismissal. I think the odds are low that that type of record has made it into the computerized files today, but I can't remember if there is a question about whether you've been arrested. Can anyone advise? Should he volunteer this info?
#33
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A friend of mine just went through this with a DUI conviction that was supervisory. Basically a conviction was never entered based upon successful completion of her supervision; which she did.
The Customs officer told her that supervision is considered a conviction, and therefore is ineligible until 10 years past the event. She is able to appeal to the Ombudsman though.
The Customs officer told her that supervision is considered a conviction, and therefore is ineligible until 10 years past the event. She is able to appeal to the Ombudsman though.
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I was arrested at a political protest about 5 years before my GE interview, and took an ACD. The GE interviewer asked me if I'd ever been arrested. I said yes, explained the circumstances, and was approved for GE.
#35
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I was told in my GE interview that "three arrests, even with all the cases dismissed, not convicted, or expunged, is still grounds for denial."
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my limited understanding of supervision
once you complete the supervision you THEN have to appeal to get the record totally expunged. Once you do this you should be eligible .
A friend of mine just went through this with a DUI conviction that was supervisory. Basically a conviction was never entered based upon successful completion of her supervision; which she did.
The Customs officer told her that supervision is considered a conviction, and therefore is ineligible until 10 years past the event. She is able to appeal to the Ombudsman though.
The Customs officer told her that supervision is considered a conviction, and therefore is ineligible until 10 years past the event. She is able to appeal to the Ombudsman though.
#37
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Update:
My friend went for his interview, and disclosed that he had been arrested in NY in 1985 for smoking pot on the street and that the case was dismissed. He was called the next day and told he would have to get some paperwork proving that it was dismissed. He almost paid someone to go get it but they wanted more money than he wanted to spend.
Yesterday, 10 days after the interview, he got an email from GE that he was approved! I guess they decided it wasn't that important.
My friend went for his interview, and disclosed that he had been arrested in NY in 1985 for smoking pot on the street and that the case was dismissed. He was called the next day and told he would have to get some paperwork proving that it was dismissed. He almost paid someone to go get it but they wanted more money than he wanted to spend.
Yesterday, 10 days after the interview, he got an email from GE that he was approved! I guess they decided it wasn't that important.
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A friend of mine just went through this with a DUI conviction that was supervisory. Basically a conviction was never entered based upon successful completion of her supervision; which she did.
The Customs officer told her that supervision is considered a conviction, and therefore is ineligible until 10 years past the event. She is able to appeal to the Ombudsman though.
The Customs officer told her that supervision is considered a conviction, and therefore is ineligible until 10 years past the event. She is able to appeal to the Ombudsman though.
#39
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I just went through a similar situation. Arrest was more than 10 years prior, system did not show that charges were dropped, was unable to obtain confirmation from any law enforcement, DA's office. Fortunately, we spoke with a lawyer at the time, who was nice enough to write a letter, confirming that the charges were dropped. CBP interviewing officer asked lots of questions, in the end "recommended me for GE".
Anyone else have a similar experience?
I contacted my Congressman's office, filled out a Privacy Act Waiver, provided some details in an effort to learn what if anything could be done. Any other suggestions?
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Contact the enrollment center you interviewed at and explain the issue. They should be able to correct it - in fact, I was told that I couldn't have my enrollment finalized until a "supervisor put in an override in my record", which apparently means "keep that arrest from flagging you for secondary".
#41
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Contact the enrollment center you interviewed at and explain the issue. They should be able to correct it - in fact, I was told that I couldn't have my enrollment finalized until a "supervisor put in an override in my record", which apparently means "keep that arrest from flagging you for secondary".
Hasn't been a problem since. Though I've also gotten an order from a judge finding me factually innocence, which required the local agency + FBI delete all references to the arrest, including the fingerprints, so that may have also played a role in it working fine now.
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[When I went to my first GE interview, the agent noted that I should have a copy of the paper form filled out (as a back-up); then go to the first available agent.]
But, as I asked in an earlier post, why would they approve someone and then have them "X"ed everytime?
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I was convicted of six felony counts in the same proceeding in 1989. Later I was able to get the convictions expunged. I listed all of this on my application. I brought an original order of expungement signed and sealed by the judge with me to the interview.
I was not even asked about it at my interview. Part of this I am told is how the FBI or rather their database has you listed. If the FBI gets a record of the dismissal of your case then your arrest record is fine. If they get a record of your expungement and they decide to accept it (they do not have to accept it) then you are fine. I think the key to all of this is how well your state or local jurisdiction handle records of dismissals, expungements and pardons and getting them sent in to the FBI. As I said I listed what I had and was not even asked about it at the interview. I have been travelling internationally about 1-1/2 times a year for the last 18 years without any issues with customs after a few checks after 9/11. When travelling on United's first class and with United Premier Access product I had been given TSA Precheck each time I had to go through security in the year before I applied for GE.
I absolutely recommend not lying and not forgetting anything no matter how little on your application. Bring every relevant piece of paperwork that you still have with you.
I was not even asked about it at my interview. Part of this I am told is how the FBI or rather their database has you listed. If the FBI gets a record of the dismissal of your case then your arrest record is fine. If they get a record of your expungement and they decide to accept it (they do not have to accept it) then you are fine. I think the key to all of this is how well your state or local jurisdiction handle records of dismissals, expungements and pardons and getting them sent in to the FBI. As I said I listed what I had and was not even asked about it at the interview. I have been travelling internationally about 1-1/2 times a year for the last 18 years without any issues with customs after a few checks after 9/11. When travelling on United's first class and with United Premier Access product I had been given TSA Precheck each time I had to go through security in the year before I applied for GE.
I absolutely recommend not lying and not forgetting anything no matter how little on your application. Bring every relevant piece of paperwork that you still have with you.