Jun 23, 2014, 10:17 pm
Last edit by: Boraxo
US/Canadian-issued ABTC can only be used to access the APEC/Crew/Diplomat lane. It does not replace/waive any visa requirements. Chinese embassy webpages mentioning visa not being required is for ABTC with CHN endorsed on the back. No US/Canadian-issued ABTC will have that endorsement.
The button to renew your US/Canadian ABTC will appear in your profile 30 days before the card expiration date.
Locations confirmed up and running:
AUS
BOS (Logan) only one of the two signature pads was working (late nov 2014)
BOS (Logan) still only 1 signature panel working, and a bit of confusion, but it all worked out (Jan 2015)
CVG (Minneola Pike)
EWR
IAD signature capture working in GE enrollment center; walk-in accepted after appointments accommodated - I was in the office for less than two minutes
IAH (outside security in E, no word on inside security GE office yet)
JFK (walk-in accepted; entrance directly across from Central Diner on arrivals level, T-4)
LAS
LAX
Long Beach, CA (downtown CBP Seaport offices, not LGB airport); posted as No Walk In, but may accommodate just the signature capture
MIA
MCO
ORD
PHX (Terminal 4, behind #6 baggage carousel)
SEA (Nexus office)
SFO (walk-in)
TUS (walk-in accepted)
Washington, DC/Reagan Bldg. walked in, only person there, signature captured, walked out, all within 5 minutes
YYZ (Nexus office)
YVR (Nexus office)
Usage Experience Updates:
BKK - 11/11/14 - success, 03/19/17 - success, 05/10/17 - success
CGK - 02/20/15 - denied (exit), 05/10/17 - success (exit), 08/20/17 - success (entry)
CRK - 10/28/16 - success, but only 30 days, not 59 days for no-endorsement US issued ABTC.
CTU - 03/18/16 - denied -(APAC lane has limited hours)
CUN - 12/30/17 & 12/27/19 - success (with family) but difficult to enter express lane due to pushback from line monitor
DMK - 9/20/17 inbound - success, had to go under lane ropes; use Official/Diplomatic, not Crew. No APEC markings.
DPS - 03/08/15 - success but with pushback (exit)
GMP - 09/18/14 - success, 03/18/15 - success (arrival)
HKG - 09/21/14 - success, 02/28/15 - success, 02/29/15 - success (exit), 3/18/17 success, 3/19/17 - success (exit)
HKT - 12/23 - success on entry - sign says +1 allowed and "THA" endorsement required, but didn't even check the back of card. On departure the APEC lane was not staffed
HND - 07/30/14, 03/30/23 - success - lane in clearly marked
ICN - 09/13/14 - success, 03/24/25 - success (departure)
KUL - 03/10/16 - success
MEX - 06/28/15 - success, 7/11/17 - success
MNL - 11/27/2015 - success (T1) (business visa not necessary for U.S. citizens) 59 days (depends on agent training. Most give 59, some give only 30, (Oct 2018))
NRT - 12/1/2014 - success both inbound and outbound immigration (visa not needed); 9/25/17 - inbound success
PEK - 07/25/14 - success (T3)
POM - 11/01/15 - denied, PNG immigration has a sign saying "only endorsed ABTC cards"
PVG - 07/24/14 - success (T2)
PVR - 11/2018, 4/2021 success (with family),4/2023 fail
SGN - 09/04/2014 - success (visa on arrival), 02/15/2017 - denied (visa on arrival)
SHA - 11/10/2014 - success
SJD - 6/2017 & 6/2018 - success (with family)
SIN - 2/3/2016 - denied, 5/3/2017 - success; 9/16/17 - success at APEC lane
TPE - 07/24/14 - success (T2), 9/30 - success (T1), 10/12 - Denied (T2), 02/24/2015 - success (T1), 5/11 & 5/13 - success (T1)
YUL - 11/2014 - success inbound (repeatedly into 2016 via dip line)
YVR - 06/2015 - success inbound
YYZ - 07/2016 - Success inbound
SCL - 04/02/2017 - Success inbound
LIM - 12/04/2017 - Success inbound
China land crossings from HK:
Lo Wu, Lok Ma Chau, Huanggang, Shenzhen Bay - 09/29/14 reported - success
China Train crossings from HK:
Dongguan and Guangzhou - 09/29/14 reported - success
Hung Hom (Hong Kong's International Train Station) - 04/30/15 - success in both directions
China Seaports from HK/Macau:
Shekou, Zhongshan, Zhuhai and Baoan and and Macau/China ferry terminal in Hong Kong - 09/29/14 reported - success
[On all above China-HK crossings look, to use ABTC to enter/exit China, look for the "Special" counters]
For CGK: Go to line marked 3 on left side just before main immigration hall. If you get to line in main hall you've gone too far. Do not use crew line.
Locations confirmed up and running:
AUS
BOS (Logan) only one of the two signature pads was working (late nov 2014)
BOS (Logan) still only 1 signature panel working, and a bit of confusion, but it all worked out (Jan 2015)
CVG (Minneola Pike)
EWR
IAD signature capture working in GE enrollment center; walk-in accepted after appointments accommodated - I was in the office for less than two minutes
IAH (outside security in E, no word on inside security GE office yet)
JFK (walk-in accepted; entrance directly across from Central Diner on arrivals level, T-4)
LAS
LAX
Long Beach, CA (downtown CBP Seaport offices, not LGB airport); posted as No Walk In, but may accommodate just the signature capture
MIA
MCO
ORD
PHX (Terminal 4, behind #6 baggage carousel)
SEA (Nexus office)
SFO (walk-in)
TUS (walk-in accepted)
Washington, DC/Reagan Bldg. walked in, only person there, signature captured, walked out, all within 5 minutes
YYZ (Nexus office)
YVR (Nexus office)
Usage Experience Updates:
BKK - 11/11/14 - success, 03/19/17 - success, 05/10/17 - success
CGK - 02/20/15 - denied (exit), 05/10/17 - success (exit), 08/20/17 - success (entry)
CRK - 10/28/16 - success, but only 30 days, not 59 days for no-endorsement US issued ABTC.
CTU - 03/18/16 - denied -(APAC lane has limited hours)
CUN - 12/30/17 & 12/27/19 - success (with family) but difficult to enter express lane due to pushback from line monitor
DMK - 9/20/17 inbound - success, had to go under lane ropes; use Official/Diplomatic, not Crew. No APEC markings.
DPS - 03/08/15 - success but with pushback (exit)
GMP - 09/18/14 - success, 03/18/15 - success (arrival)
HKG - 09/21/14 - success, 02/28/15 - success, 02/29/15 - success (exit), 3/18/17 success, 3/19/17 - success (exit)
HKT - 12/23 - success on entry - sign says +1 allowed and "THA" endorsement required, but didn't even check the back of card. On departure the APEC lane was not staffed
HND - 07/30/14, 03/30/23 - success - lane in clearly marked
ICN - 09/13/14 - success, 03/24/25 - success (departure)
KUL - 03/10/16 - success
MEX - 06/28/15 - success, 7/11/17 - success
MNL - 11/27/2015 - success (T1) (business visa not necessary for U.S. citizens) 59 days (depends on agent training. Most give 59, some give only 30, (Oct 2018))
NRT - 12/1/2014 - success both inbound and outbound immigration (visa not needed); 9/25/17 - inbound success
PEK - 07/25/14 - success (T3)
POM - 11/01/15 - denied, PNG immigration has a sign saying "only endorsed ABTC cards"
PVG - 07/24/14 - success (T2)
PVR - 11/2018, 4/2021 success (with family),4/2023 fail
SGN - 09/04/2014 - success (visa on arrival), 02/15/2017 - denied (visa on arrival)
SHA - 11/10/2014 - success
SJD - 6/2017 & 6/2018 - success (with family)
SIN - 2/3/2016 - denied, 5/3/2017 - success; 9/16/17 - success at APEC lane
TPE - 07/24/14 - success (T2), 9/30 - success (T1), 10/12 - Denied (T2), 02/24/2015 - success (T1), 5/11 & 5/13 - success (T1)
YUL - 11/2014 - success inbound (repeatedly into 2016 via dip line)
YVR - 06/2015 - success inbound
YYZ - 07/2016 - Success inbound
SCL - 04/02/2017 - Success inbound
LIM - 12/04/2017 - Success inbound
China land crossings from HK:
Lo Wu, Lok Ma Chau, Huanggang, Shenzhen Bay - 09/29/14 reported - success
China Train crossings from HK:
Dongguan and Guangzhou - 09/29/14 reported - success
Hung Hom (Hong Kong's International Train Station) - 04/30/15 - success in both directions
China Seaports from HK/Macau:
Shekou, Zhongshan, Zhuhai and Baoan and and Macau/China ferry terminal in Hong Kong - 09/29/14 reported - success
[On all above China-HK crossings look, to use ABTC to enter/exit China, look for the "Special" counters]
For CGK: Go to line marked 3 on left side just before main immigration hall. If you get to line in main hall you've gone too far. Do not use crew line.
US/Canadian Issued APEC Business Travel Card (ABTC): Updates, Experiences, Q&A
Dec 6, 2016, 3:56 am
#1066
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: SIN
Programs: SQ TPP, UA 1K MM
Posts: 518
All of us who were the early adopters of the ABTC are going to be in the same boat. I don't think anyone knows what the renewal process will be, or even if the US will continue to participate in the program. I see nothing in GOES as of yet that references renewal of the card.
Bear in mind that we have a new administration taking power in January that has promised to reevaluate, renegotiate, or rip up America's international agreements and treaties, so who knows if the US will even be a part of APEC by mid-2017 when the first recipients of the cards will be due for renewal. Then again, our new best friend Russia is still in APEC, so maybe there's a glimmer of hope.
Bear in mind that we have a new administration taking power in January that has promised to reevaluate, renegotiate, or rip up America's international agreements and treaties, so who knows if the US will even be a part of APEC by mid-2017 when the first recipients of the cards will be due for renewal. Then again, our new best friend Russia is still in APEC, so maybe there's a glimmer of hope.
Last edited by crazycrab955; Dec 6, 2016 at 3:58 am Reason: typo
Dec 6, 2016, 9:48 am
#1067
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: OZ *G; HH Diamond;
Posts: 1,644
All of us who were the early adopters of the ABTC are going to be in the same boat. I don't think anyone knows what the renewal process will be, or even if the US will continue to participate in the program. I see nothing in GOES as of yet that references renewal of the card.
Bear in mind that we have a new administration taking power in January that has promised to reevaluate, renegotiate, or rip up America's international agreements and treaties, so who knows if the US will even be a part of APEC by mid-2017 when the first recipients of the cards will be due for renewal. Then again, our new best friend Russia is still in APEC, so maybe there's a glimmer of hope.
Bear in mind that we have a new administration taking power in January that has promised to reevaluate, renegotiate, or rip up America's international agreements and treaties, so who knows if the US will even be a part of APEC by mid-2017 when the first recipients of the cards will be due for renewal. Then again, our new best friend Russia is still in APEC, so maybe there's a glimmer of hope.
Dec 6, 2016, 2:51 pm
#1068
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: SoCal to the rest of the world...
Programs: AA EXP with lots of BA. UA 2MM Lifetime Plat - No longer chase hotel loyalty
Posts: 6,698
I see a renewal option in GOES now - look under manage membership for the main program NOT the APEC program - click that then on the screen choose "U.S. Programs" in upper left and select Renew APEC Business Travel Card
Screen shot: http://imgur.com/a/fG2zh
Screen shot: http://imgur.com/a/fG2zh
Dec 6, 2016, 5:01 pm
#1069
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: MPC,CA,MU,AF
Posts: 8,171
I don't think Congress will revoke this deadline. The issue is how the new administration will handle what it was "authorized" to do. If they decide to exit the ABTC scheme or APEC, then even all current ABTC cards will be useless, but I doubt the new administration will do anything though.
Dec 6, 2016, 11:02 pm
#1071
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
Posts: 217
All of us who were the early adopters of the ABTC are going to be in the same boat. I don't think anyone knows what the renewal process will be, or even if the US will continue to participate in the program. I see nothing in GOES as of yet that references renewal of the card.
Bear in mind that we have a new administration taking power in January that has promised to reevaluate, renegotiate, or rip up America's international agreements and treaties, so who knows if the US will even be a part of APEC by mid-2017 when the first recipients of the cards will be due for renewal. Then again, our new best friend Russia is still in APEC, so maybe there's a glimmer of hope.
Bear in mind that we have a new administration taking power in January that has promised to reevaluate, renegotiate, or rip up America's international agreements and treaties, so who knows if the US will even be a part of APEC by mid-2017 when the first recipients of the cards will be due for renewal. Then again, our new best friend Russia is still in APEC, so maybe there's a glimmer of hope.
Given the new administration's views on visas and border controls, it seems to me that IF the ABTC program is renewed next year, then there is probably little chance that reciprocal visa privileges will be added.
Last edited by tookay; Dec 7, 2016 at 2:13 am
Dec 7, 2016, 6:56 am
#1072
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 14,636
I don't think Congress will revoke this deadline. The issue is how the new administration will handle what it was "authorized" to do. If they decide to exit the ABTC scheme or APEC, then even all current ABTC cards will be useless, but I doubt the new administration will do anything though.
Dec 16, 2016, 2:36 pm
#1074
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: ORD
Posts: 73
Went into ORD today for my appointment. Was seen on time. Was asked for a business card, explanation of work, and proof of travel to APEC countries three times within the past year or proof of scheduled travel plans (three distinct visits) within the next year. I couldn't show that, and my application was rejected.
Dec 16, 2016, 3:31 pm
#1075
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
Programs: ʙᴏɴᴠo̱ʏ Au, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred
Posts: 5,336
Went into ORD today for my appointment. Was seen on time. Was asked for a business card, explanation of work, and proof of travel to APEC countries three times within the past year or proof of scheduled travel plans (three distinct visits) within the next year. I couldn't show that, and my application was rejected.
Dec 16, 2016, 5:03 pm
#1076
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: ORD
Posts: 73
"We regret to inform you that your membership in the ABTC program has been disapproved for the following reason(s):
Other
NOT ELIGIBLE FOR APEC"
It gives me an address to the CBP Ombudsman... Maybe I'll try it.
Dec 16, 2016, 5:11 pm
#1077
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: SEA/ORD/ADB
Programs: TK ELPL (*G), AS 100K (OWE), BA Gold (OWE), Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat
Posts: 7,763
Wondering if anyone has had success appealing... Checked in GOES and the rejection letter already shows:
"We regret to inform you that your membership in the ABTC program has been disapproved for the following reason(s):
Other
NOT ELIGIBLE FOR APEC"
It gives me an address to the CBP Ombudsman... Maybe I'll try it.
"We regret to inform you that your membership in the ABTC program has been disapproved for the following reason(s):
Other
NOT ELIGIBLE FOR APEC"
It gives me an address to the CBP Ombudsman... Maybe I'll try it.
Dec 16, 2016, 5:47 pm
#1079
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: MPC,CA,MU,AF
Posts: 8,171
When I applied for ABTC several years ago, they didn't check for three ABTC country stamps. I don't think there were three ABTC stamps the 12 months prior to my interview, but I listed enough flights to that region and my passport had so many stamps she didn't bother checking them.
Dec 16, 2016, 7:00 pm
#1080
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 464
To add to my report, my (Manila) NAIA T1 entries have been 59 day stamps with the ABTC, but my Clark entries have been 30 day stamps with the ABTC. Both allow me to use the APEC line, though.