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US/Canadian Issued ABTC/APEC Business Travel Card: Updates, Experiences, Q&A

Old Jun 23, 14, 10:17 pm
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US/Canadian-issued ABTC can only be used to access the APEC/Crew/Diplomat lane. It does not replace/waive any visa requirements. Chinese embassy webpages mentioning visa not being required is for ABTC with CHN endorsed on the back. No US/Canadian-issued ABTC will have that endorsement.


Locations confirmed up and running:
AUS
BOS (Logan) only one of the two signature pads was working (late nov 2014)
BOS (Logan) still only 1 signature panel working, and a bit of confusion, but it all worked out (Jan 2015)
CVG (Minneola Pike)
EWR
IAD signature capture working in GE enrollment center; walk-in accepted after appointments accommodated - I was in the office for less than two minutes
IAH (outside security in E, no word on inside security GE office yet)
JFK (walk-in accepted; entrance directly across from Central Diner on arrivals level, T-4)
LAS
LAX
Long Beach, CA (downtown CBP Seaport offices, not LGB airport); posted as No Walk In, but may accommodate just the signature capture
MIA
MCO
ORD
PHX (Terminal 4, behind #6 baggage carousel)
SEA (Nexus office)
SFO (walk-in)
TUS (walk-in accepted)
Washington, DC/Reagan Bldg. walked in, only person there, signature captured, walked out, all within 5 minutes
YYZ (Nexus office)
YVR (Nexus office)

Usage Experience Updates:

BKK - 11/11/14 - success, 03/19/17 - success, 05/10/17 - success
CGK - 02/20/15 - denied (exit), 05/10/17 - success (exit), 08/20/17 - success (entry)
CRK - 10/28/16 - success, but only 30 days, not 59 days for no-endorsement US issued ABTC.
CTU - 03/18/16 - denied -(APAC lane has limited hours)
CUN - 12/30/17 & 12/27/19 - success (with family) but difficult to enter express lane due to pushback from line monitor
DMK - 9/20/17 inbound - success, had to go under lane ropes; use Official/Diplomatic, not Crew. No APEC markings.
DPS - 03/08/15 - success but with pushback (exit)
GMP - 09/18/14 - success, 03/18/15 - success (arrival)
HKG - 09/21/14 - success, 02/28/15 - success, 02/29/15 - success (exit), 3/18/17 success, 3/19/17 - success (exit)
HND - 07/30/14, 03/30/23 - success - lane in clearly marked
ICN - 09/13/14 - success, 03/24/25 - success (departure)
KUL - 03/10/16 - success
MEX - 06/28/15 - success, 7/11/17 - success
MNL - 11/27/2015 - success (T1) (business visa not necessary for U.S. citizens) 59 days (depends on agent training. Most give 59, some give only 30, (Oct 2018))
NRT - 12/1/2014 - success both inbound and outbound immigration (visa not needed); 9/25/17 - inbound success
PEK - 07/25/14 - success (T3)
POM - 11/01/15 - denied, PNG immigration has a sign saying "only endorsed ABTC cards"
PVG - 07/24/14 - success (T2)
PVR - 11/2018, 4/2021 success (with family)
SGN - 09/04/2014 - success (visa on arrival), 02/15/2017 - denied (visa on arrival)
SHA - 11/10/2014 - success
SJD - 6/2017 & 6/2018 - success (with family)
SIN - 2/3/2016 - denied, 5/3/2017 - success; 9/16/17 - success at APEC lane
TPE - 07/24/14 - success (T2), 9/30 - success (T1), 10/12 - Denied (T2), 02/24/2015 - success (T1), 5/11 & 5/13 - success (T1)
YUL - 11/2014 - success inbound (repeatedly into 2016 via dip line)
YVR - 06/2015 - success inbound
YYZ - 07/2016 - Success inbound
SCL - 04/02/2017 - Success inbound
LIM - 12/04/2017 - Success inbound

China land crossings from HK:
Lo Wu, Lok Ma Chau, Huanggang, Shenzhen Bay - 09/29/14 reported - success

China Train crossings from HK:
Dongguan and Guangzhou - 09/29/14 reported - success
Hung Hom (Hong Kong's International Train Station) - 04/30/15 - success in both directions

China Seaports from HK/Macau:
Shekou, Zhongshan, Zhuhai and Baoan and and Macau/China ferry terminal in Hong Kong - 09/29/14 reported - success

[On all above China-HK crossings look, to use ABTC to enter/exit China, look for the "Special" counters]

For CGK: Go to line marked 3 on left side just before main immigration hall. If you get to line in main hall you've gone too far. Do not use crew line.
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US/Canadian Issued ABTC/APEC Business Travel Card: Updates, Experiences, Q&A

Old Mar 22, 23, 11:07 pm
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Hi all,

People may find this interesting. I have US global entry (US passport) and it's expiring later this year, so applied to renew it 4 months ago. I decided to apply for APEC card as well since I travel a lot in Asia on business.

Of course GE renewal has been stuck in "Pending Review" for 4 months now, so the APEC application hasn't been processed either.

I finally got fed up and applied for APEC again (another $70) under my old GE (the one that is expiring later this year and still shows "approved" at the bottom of the screen) and got **instant conditional approval**.

Sigh, I could have done that 4 months ago.

So now I need to do an interview. Anyone had luck getting an interview in Singapore at the US embassy? It's completely booked up until Sept. Otherwise it'll have to wait until I fly back to the US.

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Old Apr 1, 23, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by jianglai
Anyone had experience doing walk-ins for the interview? I applied through the Nexus program so I can only schedule the interview at a Nexus center... Was thinking about doing a walk-in at a global entry location in New York, but called JFK and they said they only do appointments and only do Global Entry and not Nexus (not sure if the person understood me correctly that I am completing an APEC interview).
I did a walk-in at JFK T4 on a Thursday afternoon in mid-March. I had my letter, passport, driver license (proof of address), and business card with me. A CBP agent took me right away; asked me some questions to bring my file current (employment info) and understand my reasons for getting the card; and took my photo and signature. It took perhaps 10 minutes. I received my card in the mail roughly two weeks later.

I have Global Entry, not Nexus, so your experience may not be comparable.

Last edited by Petdog; Apr 1, 23 at 11:15 pm Reason: forgot they collected my signature
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Old Apr 2, 23, 5:05 am
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Used at HND Friday night and bypassed a nice line. Line was clearly marked just to left of regular line and nobody questioned my 13yr old with me on biz trip. ABTC has literally saved me hours in lines
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Old Apr 5, 23, 6:42 am
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Did my interview. Was basically asked “What’s your job?” and when I said “I work for X industry and fly to countries like Malaysia, Taiwan, Japan” the response was “That’s all I need to know”.

Did the digital signature. Took 5 min total.

Got the approval email 10 min later.

One important point - they said “the card can only be mailed to a US address”. I already had a US address i can use associated with my GE account, but they said “for some people that’s a problem”

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Old Apr 5, 23, 5:08 pm
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Did my interview at PHL today. The officer asked "You're here to sign for your APEC card, right?" Had to use another officer's machine. That was it.
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Old Apr 12, 23, 8:26 pm
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Any experience bringing a same-sex partner through the APEC line? I imagine this would be an issue in certain Asian countries, just wondering if anyone has tried.
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Old Apr 13, 23, 4:01 am
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Originally Posted by refurb
One important point - they said the card can only be mailed to a US address. I already had a US address i can use associated with my GE account, but they said for some people thats a problem
That's interesting, because I did my initial Global Entry interview in Tokyo about 8 years ago -- they had a DHS person come out to do interviews at the American Chamber's office. ABTC then got mailed to my address in Japan. There may be similar opportunities in other countries.
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Old Apr 13, 23, 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by joejones
That's interesting, because I did my initial Global Entry interview in Tokyo about 8 years ago -- they had a DHS person come out to do interviews at the American Chamber's office. ABTC then got mailed to my address in Japan. There may be similar opportunities in other countries.
Yeah, I thought that was odd as some earlier post said they got the card mailed to China.

No idea if it's an actual change to how they deliver cards or if this guy was just misinformed.
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Old Apr 14, 23, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by refurb
Yeah, I thought that was odd as some earlier post said they got the card mailed to China.

No idea if it's an actual change to how they deliver cards or if this guy was just misinformed.
Renewed my card online, no interview needed, and received my card awhile later from YYZ airport in an envelope that was branded from YYZ airport - at first I didn't know what it was, and initially thought it was a cease and desist order given my habit of publicly insulting the airport's legendary incompetence, but it turned out to my new new APAC card. Go figure.
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