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mikef11 Jun 20, 2014 8:10 am


Originally Posted by NickP 1K (Post 23064483)
If anyone at LAX or SFO gets it done please post.

I called AUS location and they said "no signature pad/software yet"

I called SFO and they advised me to call them back next week.

NickP 1K Jun 20, 2014 10:42 am


Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 23066584)
At least they cut and mail the card out quickly. Could you describe what is printed on the back of the card?

Better yet, photo the card and blur the barcode/identifying info.

There are blocks for country validity want to know what is in that...

As I suspected on the Visa side...

penlin Jun 20, 2014 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 23066584)
At least they cut and mail the card out quickly. Could you describe what is printed on the back of the card?

Back of the card.
Passport : USA (Passport number)
Valid for travel to: [This section is blank]
Last is the machine readable code for passport and APEC info.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O...0/IMG_0025.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c...0/IMG_0024.JPG

seawolf Jun 20, 2014 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by penlin (Post 23068428)
Back of the card.
Passport : USA (Passport number)
Valid for travel to: [This section is blank]
Last is the machine readable code for passport and APEC info.

Thanks. Was specifically interested in the Valid for travel to: part of the card.

penlin Jun 20, 2014 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 23068503)
Thanks. Was specifically interested in the Valid for travel to: part of the card.

I changed my prior post to include the images

Also here is the letter that came with the card
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-z...0/IMG_0018.JPG

Always Flyin Jun 20, 2014 3:57 pm

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

So its not good for travel to ANYWHERE.

What a joke this all is.

NickP 1K Jun 21, 2014 1:31 am


Originally Posted by penlin (Post 23068428)
Back of the card.
Passport : USA (Passport number)
Valid for travel to: [This section is blank]
Last is the machine readable code for passport and APEC info.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O...0/IMG_0025.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c...0/IMG_0024.JPG

Thanks, shame US didn't properly do this... Valid for travel to... [NOWHERE] essentially

TRAVELSIG Jun 21, 2014 6:00 am


Originally Posted by NickP 1K (Post 23071003)
Thanks, shame US didn't properly do this... Valid for travel to... [NOWHERE] essentially

What on earth is the purpose of this card then?

Ari Jun 21, 2014 8:26 am


Originally Posted by TRAVELSIG (Post 23071566)
What on earth is the purpose of this card then?

At the border, you can use the crew lanes in APEC countries. That's it for now. But this is a big benefit for NRT and HKG and some others. Also works in Canda.

(Maybe there will be some visa courtesy-- like expedited processing-- but that is pure speculation).

NickP 1K Jun 21, 2014 9:57 am


Originally Posted by TRAVELSIG (Post 23071566)
What on earth is the purpose of this card then?

As Ari, said; come into NRT at peak; it's 1 hour+ to get through immigration.. Same in PEK, PVG, etc.

This is a boost for those of use who go to those places often. If you don't care to clear immigration/border control quicker and DON'T ever encounter lines then this is not for you.

I'll take it though....


Originally Posted by penlin (Post 23044101)
So as a follow up, I was able to get my signature collected at JFK today. So I can happily report that atleast the JFK facility is now completely setup to process this application. (atleast on one computer, as they only have a single e-signature pad.)

Cheers

Quick question; did you have an appt or walk in; how long total process time ... just gauging how "with it" locations will be to do this as walk in (as the invite letter states you can do)

Always Flyin Jun 21, 2014 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by Ari (Post 23072043)
At the border, you can use the crew lanes in APEC countries. That's it for now. But this is a big benefit for NRT and HKG and some others. Also works in Canda.

(Maybe there will be some visa courtesy-- like expedited processing-- but that is pure speculation).

Yes, but I am assuming that use of the expedited lanes is only at APEC countries that don't require a separate business visa (it won't work in, e.g., Thailand, Russia, Vietnam, Cambodia, China). At those countries, it appears you need the visa and the card to use the expedited lanes.

mikef11 Jun 21, 2014 1:31 pm

Just went to YVR Nexus office to try to get my signature captured and they have the equipment but software not set up yet...

PDX GE enrollment center said they haven't heard about this at all...both SEA GE enrollment center and Nexus office asked me to check back with them on Monday...we'll see...

Kaix Jun 21, 2014 2:05 pm

I applied for this today and within minutes had conditional approval to schedule an interview or just walk in to any enrollment center. Will give an update after I stop by a center.

aBroadAbroad Jun 21, 2014 2:26 pm

Hello, everyone! It would very helpful if some of our more knowledgable and/or experienced posters in this thread would be so kind as to start a basic Wikipost to help other members to better understand the process, and keep track of how the rollout is proceeding... ?

Thanks to all who've contributed thus far!

~Moderator

TRAVELSIG Jun 21, 2014 6:44 pm


Originally Posted by Ari (Post 23072043)
At the border, you can use the crew lanes in APEC countries. That's it for now. But this is a big benefit for NRT and HKG and some others. Also works in Canda.

(Maybe there will be some visa courtesy-- like expedited processing-- but that is pure speculation).

Ah OK Thanks.

With HKG I have had an express e-channel service for many years so no time saving there and this service is free.

With NRT agree there could be some big savings.

Canada and USA both have Global Entry and/or Nexus at most ports so I cannot see an advantage.

If there is visa courtesy of course this is very interesting. Also for PRC if able to use the APEC lanes this is a big time saver particularly at PEK, PVG, and SHA- however my understanding was that you can only use the APEC lanes for the countries "valid for travel". Is that not correct- you can use for any APEC country as long as you have the card? And for example how does that reciprocate for APECN card holders entering the United States- can they use the crew entry posts?

Thanks for any insight- this just seems like a very strange implementation at the moment.


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