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ABTC/APEC Business Travel Card for US/Canadian Citizens: Updates, Experiences, Q&A

ABTC/APEC Business Travel Card for US/Canadian Citizens: Updates, Experiences, Q&A

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US/Canadian-issued ABTC can only be used to access the APEC/Crew/Diplomat lane. It does not replace/waive any visa requirements. Chinese embassy webpages mentioning visa not being required is for ABTC with CHN endorsed on the back. No US/Canadian-issued ABTC will have that endorsement.


Locations confirmed up and running:
AUS
BOS (Logan) only one of the two signature pads was working (late nov 2014)
BOS (Logan) still only 1 signature panel working, and a bit of confusion, but it all worked out (Jan 2015)
CVG (Minneola Pike)
EWR
IAD signature capture working in GE enrollment center; walk-in accepted after appointments accommodated - I was in the office for less than two minutes
IAH (outside security in E, no word on inside security GE office yet)
JFK (walk-in accepted; entrance directly across from Central Diner on arrivals level, T-4)
LAS
LAX
Long Beach, CA (downtown CBP Seaport offices, not LGB airport); posted as No Walk In, but may accommodate just the signature capture
MIA
MCO
ORD
PHX (Terminal 4, behind #6 baggage carousel)
SEA (Nexus office)
SFO (walk-in)
TUS (walk-in accepted)
Washington, DC/Reagan Bldg. walked in, only person there, signature captured, walked out, all within 5 minutes
YYZ (Nexus office)
YVR (Nexus office)

Usage Experience Updates:

BKK - 11/11/14 - success, 03/19/17 - success, 05/10/17 - success
CGK - 02/20/15 - denied (exit), 05/10/17 - success (exit), 08/20/17 - success (entry)
CRK - 10/28/16 - success, but only 30 days, not 59 days for no-endorsement US issued ABTC.
CTU - 03/18/16 - denied -(APAC lane has limited hours)
CUN - 12/30/17 - success (with family)
DMK - 9/20/17 inbound - success, had to go under lane ropes; use Official/Diplomatic, not Crew. No APEC markings.
DPS - 03/08/15 - success but with pushback (exit)
GMP - 09/18/14 - success, 03/18/15 - success (arrival)
HKG - 09/21/14 - success, 02/28/15 - success, 02/29/15 - success (exit), 3/18/17 success, 3/19/17 - success (exit)
HND - 07/30/14 - success
ICN - 09/13/14 - success, 03/24/25 - success (departure)
KUL - 03/10/16 - success
MEX - 06/28/15 - success, 7/11/17 - success
MNL - 11/27/2015 - success (T1) (business visa not necessary for U.S. citizens) 59 days (depends on agent training. Most give 59, some give only 30, (Oct 2018))
NRT - 12/1/2014 - success both inbound and outbound immigration (visa not needed); 9/25/17 - inbound success
PEK - 07/25/14 - success (T3)
POM - 11/01/15 - denied, PNG immigration has a sign saying "only endorsed ABTC cards"
PVG - 07/24/14 - success (T2)
PVR - 11/17/18 - success (with family)
SGN - 09/04/2014 - success (visa on arrival), 02/15/2017 - denied (visa on arrival)
SHA - 11/10/2014 - success
SJD - 6/2017 & 6/2018 - success (with family)
SIN - 2/3/2016 - denied, 5/3/2017 - success; 9/16/17 - success at APEC lane
TPE - 07/24/14 - success (T2), 9/30 - success (T1), 10/12 - Denied (T2), 02/24/2015 - success (T1), 5/11 & 5/13 - success (T1)
YUL - 11/2014 - success inbound (repeatedly into 2016 via dip line)
YVR - 06/2015 - success inbound
YYZ - 07/2016 - Success inbound
SCL - 04/02/2017 - Success inbound
LIM - 12/04/2017 - Success inbound

China land crossings from HK:
Lo Wu, Lok Ma Chau, Huanggang, Shenzhen Bay - 09/29/14 reported - success

China Train crossings from HK:
Dongguan and Guangzhou - 09/29/14 reported - success
Hung Hom (Hong Kong's International Train Station) - 04/30/15 - success in both directions

China Seaports from HK/Macau:
Shekou, Zhongshan, Zhuhai and Baoan and and Macau/China ferry terminal in Hong Kong - 09/29/14 reported - success

[On all above China-HK crossings look, to use ABTC to enter/exit China, look for the "Special" counters]

For CGK: Go to line marked 3 on left side just before main immigration hall. If you get to line in main hall you've gone too far. Do not use crew line.


No Working Equipment as of Reported Date:
AMS - 06/03/14 - indicated GEEC outside of U.S. not expected to do ABTC at all
Blaine Nexus office - 6/23/14
Houston downtown city hall office - 07/2014 - no signature reader
PDX - 6/21/14
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Old Nov 28, 18, 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Leopardz View Post
Iíve tried using my card twice at SJD. First time no problem. Second time the immigration officer said the queue was for diplomats only that the APEC ABTC card was not recognized. What documentation can I print and carry with me so that next time if the officer is not familiar with the program I can provide him with the information needed to inform him? I was looking for something official that states which Mexican airports participate but I canít find anything.
never had a problem at SJD. Also just used at PVR - walked by the massive line with my family (and pre-filed online with completed forms preprinted) with no hassle. It helps not to have cop a DYKWIA attitude
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Old Nov 29, 18, 12:18 pm
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I have a US passport, am based at SFO and have had my APEC card for about a year. While I've used the APEC card numerous times, I've never used it on return at SFO, instead just using the GE kiosks / and line. I've hesitated because I'm not entirely sure of the process and didn't want to get snarled at by CBP staff.
So if I want to use my APEC card upon reentry at SFO, do I need to present a Customs form or use the GE kiosk and then move to the APEC line?
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Old Nov 30, 18, 1:31 am
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Originally Posted by mongobot View Post
So if I want to use my APEC card upon reentry at SFO, do I need to present a Customs form or use the GE kiosk and then move to the APEC line?
If you're GE, what benefit do you think you're going to get out of using the crew line?

I use my ABTC card and the crew line every time I enter the US (most commonly at SFO), but only because I can't use a kiosk (foreigner with a visa). Given the option I'd be using GE every time!
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Old Nov 30, 18, 3:28 pm
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If the APEC line allowed me to skip using the GE kiosk, it would likely be faster. If not for the time spent at the kiosk itself but also there is sometimes a line (albeit not very long) at GE.

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If you're GE, what benefit do you think you're going to get out of using the crew line?

I use my ABTC card and the crew line every time I enter the US (most commonly at SFO), but only because I can't use a kiosk (foreigner with a visa). Given the option I'd be using GE every time!
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Old Dec 2, 18, 7:22 am
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Hi, I have my ABTC interview in the US Embassy in Singapore this week, and was wondering if anyone could share experiences as to what will be required of me? I have a real estate investment business in the US, and have been traveling around Asia this last year (6 or 7 countries, bouncing around sporadically) looking for investment opportunities, mainly for a small hotel property. I spent a good bit of money coming over to Singapore while I was in Thailand, so I want to make sure I get my card Thanks!
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Old Dec 20, 18, 10:09 pm
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APEC interview happened but no update on dashboard

Am Canadian, and my NEXUS is expiring next year, so I figured I'd go online and see what's up. I found that I could apply for an APEC card so I decided to do that while also submitting the renewal for NEXUS. So eventually (around September/October of this year),
  • For my NEXUS, I was at the "Wait for conditional approval" stage
  • For my APEC, I was "Schedule interview" stage
I scheduled my APEC interview for mid-November and I went. While I was there, I asked if I could also do the NEXUS renewal interview as well (since I was there anyway) and they said no and that I would have to come back later. Anyway, after a month or so, I get a card in the mail and it's my newly renewed NEXUS card with no mention of the APEC card. I went online onto the dashboard and my APEC interview is still in the "Conditionally Approved" stage. I'm even given an option to reschedule or cancel an interview (even though I already had the interview!).

Did someone in the government mix something up? Or is this just messy handling on their part and that I should just keep waiting for the APEC?
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Old Dec 26, 18, 11:16 pm
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Has anyone else had a similar experience where the interview happened but the dashboard didn't update?
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Old Jan 1, 19, 6:58 pm
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I just applied for APEC business travel card, the application was surprising easy. After I paid the $70 fee, BOOM! I was conditionally approved. I go schedule a appointment, it only allow me to schedule a interview at a NEXUS enrollment center ... ??? I logout, log back in... same thing. I can only schedule a appointment at a NEXUS enrollment center.
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Old Jan 1, 19, 10:17 pm
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Originally Posted by benny08 View Post
I can only schedule a appointment at a NEXUS enrollment center.
Are we to presume you are not a Canadian citizen? Otherwise you might need to be a little more clear about exactly what you think the issue is...
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Old Jan 2, 19, 12:02 am
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Are we to presume you are not a Canadian citizen? Otherwise you might need to be a little more clear about exactly what you think the issue is...
Iím a US citizen. I thought you can have your interview at any GE enrollment center. Itís forcing me to go to a NEXUS enrollment center, and itís hard for me to go to a NEXUS enrollment center.
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Old Jan 3, 19, 8:45 am
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When I got my APEC last year, I was able to finish the enrollment at a GE center (EWR). Could this possibly have something to do with the US government partial shutdown? I've read on various threads here about GE appointments being canceled. Perhaps choosing a GE center has been temporarily removed as a choice.
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Old Jan 3, 19, 1:42 pm
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Anyone know when your account allows for renewal? (e.g. - Expiration minus XX months?) I expire in July, but don't see a renewal button yet.
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Old Jan 3, 19, 3:08 pm
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The renewal button comes up at T-30 days.
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Old Jan 4, 19, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by benny08 View Post
I just applied for APEC business travel card, the application was surprising easy. After I paid the $70 fee, BOOM! I was conditionally approved. I go schedule a appointment, it only allow me to schedule a interview at a NEXUS enrollment center ... ??? I logout, log back in... same thing. I can only schedule a appointment at a NEXUS enrollment center.
I also just applied my APEC Business Travel Card, and got conditionally approved immediately after paying $70. I do see all both GE and NEXUS enrollment centers listed as well other foreign places like Singapore; HOWEVER, not all of them have available slots. So I picked the NEXUS enrollment center in YYZ.
Did you finish the interview? In the conditional approval notices, they say "A U.S. Customs and Border Protection officer will collect your digital signature to complete your enrollment, as this is required for card production.", I'm not sure whether we have to wait until the shutdown is over.
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Old Jan 4, 19, 9:18 pm
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Originally Posted by synthkeys View Post
When I got my APEC last year, I was able to finish the enrollment at a GE center (EWR). Could this possibly have something to do with the US government partial shutdown? I've read on various threads here about GE appointments being canceled. Perhaps choosing a GE center has been temporarily removed as a choice.
I came into LAX T4 today, and ask if I can do a APEC business travel card interview on arrival I was directed to another officer who does GE interview on arrival, he said he can only do GE. Due to the government shutdown, they are actually not doing any interview on arrival at this time. He advise me to contact the LAX enrollment center see if I can do a walk in.
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