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Global Entry - US Citizens & LPRs First Time Applicants' Timelines & Information
#106
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No.
As it is explained to me, all applications are sent to our background investigators in VT. They all get divided up amongst the workers there, and it gets done when it gets done. This is why two people who apply at the same time, at the same computer, with the same information, will have their applications approved at different times.
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As it is explained to me, all applications are sent to our background investigators in VT. They all get divided up amongst the workers there, and it gets done when it gets done. This is why two people who apply at the same time, at the same computer, with the same information, will have their applications approved at different times.
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#107
Join Date: Jun 2012
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The way I would look at it is this: That most certainly does NOT explain why some people get approved long before others do even though they applied later. Makes no sense - if they are all done in the same office there shouldn't be "out of sequence" approvals. Unless they just have a bunch of goof offs in that office and very few people who are actually doing their job. <deleted by moderator>
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#108
Join Date: Nov 2009
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The way I would look at it is this: That most certainly does NOT explain why some people get approved long before others do even though they applied later. Makes no sense - if they are all done in the same office there shouldn't be "out of sequence" approvals. Unless they just have a bunch of goof offs in that office and very few people who are actually doing their job. <deleted by moderator>
That is obviously not the goal. The goal is to assure that only eligible individuals are granted the privilege of GE, based on the eligibility criteria they have decided to use. The business process CBP has implemented addresses their goal, not your assumed goal.
Last edited by TWA884; Feb 18, 2019 at 1:57 pm Reason: Conform to moderator's edit of quoted post
#111
Join Date: Jun 2012
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With current gov't shutdown I don't expect approval before March. Though I am hoping it will come before the end of Feb. so I can at least use PreCheck for a bit of upcoming travel next month. I will try to update when the status changes.
Applied and charged December 2nd.
Pending Review as of Jan. 6.
EDIT: CONDITIONALLY APPROVED 02/19/2019!
*Side note: I suspect that answering the nicknames/other names field truthfully (think Nick vs. Nicholas) was a long stride on a short pier. Should have just kept it simple.
Applied and charged December 2nd.
Pending Review as of Jan. 6.
EDIT: CONDITIONALLY APPROVED 02/19/2019!
*Side note: I suspect that answering the nicknames/other names field truthfully (think Nick vs. Nicholas) was a long stride on a short pier. Should have just kept it simple.
#112
Join Date: May 2009
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"As it is explained to me, all applications are sent to our background investigators in VT. They all get divided up amongst the workers there, and it gets done when it gets done. This is why two people who apply at the same time, at the same computer, with the same information, will have their applications approved at different times."
The way I would look at it is this: That most certainly does NOT explain why some people get approved long before others do even though they applied later. Makes no sense - if they are all done in the same office there shouldn't be "out of sequence" approvals. Unless they just have a bunch of goof offs in that office and very few people who are actually doing their job. <deleted by moderator>
The way I would look at it is this: That most certainly does NOT explain why some people get approved long before others do even though they applied later. Makes no sense - if they are all done in the same office there shouldn't be "out of sequence" approvals. Unless they just have a bunch of goof offs in that office and very few people who are actually doing their job. <deleted by moderator>
If there is a reasonably consistent distribution and management of workload, factoring in the known variables, then there shouldn't be too many wild swings in conditional decision times for similar types of applications over the long run. That isn't to say that CBP needs to have consistent processing time as its goal per se, just that such large unpredictable variations might be symptomatic of inefficiencies or randomness in their processes. (Of course the shutdown threw everything out of whack.)
And of course we don't know to what extent the data points in this thread are representative of the entire universe of applications, either. According to a 2014 CBP statistic cited in Wikipedia, about 50,000 applications are filed monthly on average. The quantity of unique data points in this thread is but a tiny fraction of the number of GE application filed since 2010 when this thread began. My gut feeling is that many others are seeing large disparities as well, but who knows.
But we'll never really know anything for sure, since we aren't informed as to the details of CBP's review processes. Ideally it would be nice to see more insight into the status of the application - maybe "application has been assigned to a reviewer (or whatever the title)..."reviewer has started working your application"...or similar. But that won't happen.
#113
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You are just being impatient. Complaints aren't going to make it go any faster. It will be done when it's done.
#114
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But we'll never really know anything for sure, since we aren't informed as to the details of CBP's review processes. Ideally it would be nice to see more insight into the status of the application - maybe "application has been assigned to a reviewer (or whatever the title)..."reviewer has started working your application"...or similar. But that won't happen.
A new manager stopped that by reducing the number of processing points that needed to be recorded and productivity soared.
But with GE there are likely to be dozens of processes / data sources involved that applicants might want to know about but don't need to know about and can do nothing about expediting even if they did. And GE processing also needs non federal government organisations to provide data and query resolution and it may not be on top of the AnyState Court House priority list to sort out which of two people with the same name was the criminal and which wasn't. Heck it's likely not on any federal courts clerical workers list either and it'll get done next week when Shona is back from holiday etc etc
#116
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Join Date: May 1998
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Applied on 2/12/19
Conditional Approved: 2/19/19
Interview/Approval: 2/28/19
Card: 3/7/19
Kept checking the website and an interview spot opened up. Interview was about 6 minutes long.
For those in the South Bay, Global Entry will be at the Santa Clara Travel Show on March 23/24 at the Convention Center. Free entry and open interview slots too!
Safe travels
Conditional Approved: 2/19/19
Interview/Approval: 2/28/19
Card: 3/7/19
Kept checking the website and an interview spot opened up. Interview was about 6 minutes long.
For those in the South Bay, Global Entry will be at the Santa Clara Travel Show on March 23/24 at the Convention Center. Free entry and open interview slots too!
Safe travels
Last edited by sggolf; Mar 8, 2019 at 11:50 am Reason: Updated info
#117
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#118
Join Date: Dec 2018
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"As it is explained to me, all applications are sent to our background investigators in VT. They all get divided up amongst the workers there, and it gets done when it gets done. This is why two people who apply at the same time, at the same computer, with the same information, will have their applications approved at different times."
The way I would look at it is this: That most certainly does NOT explain why some people get approved long before others do even though they applied later. Makes no sense - if they are all done in the same office there shouldn't be "out of sequence" approvals. Unless they just have a bunch of goof offs in that office and very few people who are actually doing their job. <deleted by moderator>
The way I would look at it is this: That most certainly does NOT explain why some people get approved long before others do even though they applied later. Makes no sense - if they are all done in the same office there shouldn't be "out of sequence" approvals. Unless they just have a bunch of goof offs in that office and very few people who are actually doing their job. <deleted by moderator>
#119
Join Date: Jun 2012
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I believe that something as simple as the staff member who got your application being on vacation for the week can impact your timeline. I know this happens with passport applications too. I was told if you get an officer who is out of the office for two weeks you’ll be waiting awhile
All the excuses and <deleted by moderator> explanations aside, there is truly something wrong with this system.
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#120
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Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 1,933
Did everyone get an email stating conditional approval? I just happened to log into GE and saw approval that day.
Is the airport that you are traveling out of, one of the Global Entry centers where they do interviews? Or any of your layover airports? You might even be able to do your interview on your way back into US under Enrollment upon Arrival. If you are going out of the country, you are probably entering back through one of the major hubs which offers GE. Check out the links which show which booth to go to in each airport.
For example at ORD:
Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD)Location:Terminal 5, Booth 58
1000 West O'Hare Avenue
Chicago, IL 60666
Hours of Operation:8:15 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Monday - Friday
Enrollment on Arrival available at Booth 58 if returning from foreign
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-t...llment-arrival
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-t...ival/locations
Safe travels.
Is the airport that you are traveling out of, one of the Global Entry centers where they do interviews? Or any of your layover airports? You might even be able to do your interview on your way back into US under Enrollment upon Arrival. If you are going out of the country, you are probably entering back through one of the major hubs which offers GE. Check out the links which show which booth to go to in each airport.
For example at ORD:
Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD)Location:Terminal 5, Booth 58
1000 West O'Hare Avenue
Chicago, IL 60666
Hours of Operation:8:15 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Monday - Friday
Enrollment on Arrival available at Booth 58 if returning from foreign
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-t...llment-arrival
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-t...ival/locations
Safe travels.
Last edited by sggolf; Feb 20, 2019 at 10:26 am